#YesAllWomen: California rampage sparks Twitter response - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;44913646] [IMG]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/75090000/jpg/_75090903_main.jpg[/IMG] This youtube comment ugh What the Actual Fuck, especially the last line. 6 People are fucking dead, Male too. You fucking idiot.[/QUOTE] The guy sounds like a future shooter.

[QUOTE=Feuver;44913731]To be honest, at this point in time, it seems like everyone has some sort of mental illness. May it be attention disorder or the thousands upon thousands of new psychological illness that are "discovered" every year, it's just hard to find perfectly cool headed people.[/QUOTE] That's not important, what's important is separating the troubled from the genuinely twisted. Like the Elliot Roger guy.

And this is why I hate social media sometimes.

[QUOTE=harryh11;44913782]But a real human bean [I]wrote that youtube comment[/I]. And 14 people upvoted him.[/QUOTE] You can't really tell if it's their actual opinion or just something they typed to get a reaction out of people.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;44913743]Access to firearms is directly responsible for shootings, regardless if the person was mentally ill or not.[/QUOTE] What about the three roommates he stabbed to death?

[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;44914012]And this is why I hate social media sometimes.[/QUOTE] You know what, i agree. Stuff like this from social media honestly depresses me. Its the same reason why i don't even bother with Youtube and Steam Community. The Mentality is absolutely poisonous.

[QUOTE=Feuver;44913731]To be honest, at this point in time, it seems like everyone has some sort of mental illness. May it be attention disorder or the thousands upon thousands of new psychological illness that are "discovered" every year, it's just hard to find perfectly cool headed people.[/QUOTE] Are you seriously comparing diagnosed Autism with self-diagnosed diseases?

[QUOTE=discofex;44914029]What about the three roommates he stabbed to death?[/QUOTE] Didn't he shoot the other 3 though?

[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;44914054]Didn't he shoot the other 3 though?[/QUOTE] With out a gun he would have stabbed the other three or found another way to murder them.

[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;44914054]Didn't he shoot the other 3 though?[/QUOTE] Stabbing is more personal than shooting. He really hated those 3 people.

how do you get a stupid 'trend' like #YesAllWomen from some virgin autist killing both boys and girls? good grief, and people actually defend this

[img]http://i.imgur.com/KZNEvdA.png[/img] the only proper use of this hashtag

Fucking christ I hate these kinds of people. The issue here isn't anything gender-related. The issue is that he was a fucking lunatic. If I go downtown and shoot up a store because I was stuck in traffic and it pissed me off, would you start crying about how "traffic is driving people to commit murder, we must solve this problem." No, you fucking find out why a clearly psychotic person was able to go unnoticed up until the point where they started shooting people. The catalyst isn't important, the fact that they were insane and did not receive help or even recognition is. Case in point, this situation. Who cares why he started shooting people, how about instead you focus on why the cops knew that he was batshit crazy and chose to do fuck all about it.

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44914230]Fucking christ I hate these kinds of people. The issue here isn't anything gender-related. The issue is that he was a fucking lunatic. If I go downtown and shoot up a store because I was stuck in traffic and it pissed me off, would you start crying about how "traffic is driving people to commit murder, we must solve this problem." No, you fucking find out why a clearly psychotic person was able to go unnoticed up until the point where they started shooting people. The catalyst isn't important, the fact that they were insane and did not receive help or even recognition is. Case in point, this situation. Who cares why he started shooting people, how about instead you focus on why the cops knew that he was batshit crazy and chose to do fuck all about it.[/QUOTE] When a guy goes about ranting white supremacist shite as he shoots people, do you go about raging about fucking lunatics?

[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;44914276]When a guy goes about ranting white supremacist shite as he shoots people, do you go about raging about fucking lunatics?[/QUOTE] He had a deep hate for men who had sex also. I don't think people know how personal stabbing someone is.

[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;44914276]When a guy goes about ranting white supremacist shite as he shoots people, do you go about raging about fucking lunatics?[/QUOTE] Uh, yes? Because he was a lunatic. What the hell kind of question is that?

[QUOTE=discofex;44914288]He had a deep hate for men who had sex also.[/QUOTE] That's a hardly unknown meme amongst the invocel set. [editline]26th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44914302]Uh, yes? Because he was a lunatic. What the hell kind of question is that?[/QUOTE] You don't need to be mentally ill to be mass murderer, unless you count nasty ideology as mental illness - which is a shitty thing to do.

[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;44914314] You don't need to be mentally ill to be mass murderer, unless you count nasty ideology as mental illness - which is a shitty thing to do.[/QUOTE] Are you for fucking real?

[QUOTE=harryh11;44913782]But a real human bean [I]wrote that youtube comment[/I]. And 14 people upvoted him.[/QUOTE] Apparently there's no such thing as troll comments anymore.

[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;44914314]You don't need to be mentally ill to be mass murderer, unless you count nasty ideology as mental illness - which is a shitty thing to do.[/QUOTE] Are you aware that "nasty ideologies" are born from mental illness?

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;44914415]Are you aware that "nasty ideologies" are born from mental illness?[/QUOTE] They can be. Or they can be born from entitled assholery, like what this guy showed.

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44914230]Fucking christ I hate these kinds of people. The issue here isn't anything gender-related. [/QUOTE] His rampage was motivated by gender and is basically the extreme version of what happens to women every day.

[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;44914425]They can be. Or they can be born from entitled assholery, like what this guy showed.[/QUOTE] So you're telling me that a person of perfectly sound mental condition stabbed 3 people and shot 3 more because he was annoyed with a situation?

Yo I went over this in the last thread but no mental illness can transform a person into a psychotic gunman all on it's own; there isn't any disorder in the DSMV which causes that to happen. Mental illnesses like schizoaffective disorders and antisocial personality disorder can merely make someone unstable, but if you just look at this dude's youtube videos and manifesto it's obvious that there was a calculated, ideological element to his violence and that is not something which just appears out of thin air. Denying that larger cultural attitudes about women played any part in this guy's attitudes despite all of the blindingly obvious evidence to the contrary and just shrugging your shoulders and saying "well he was just crazy" is fucking stupid and willfully ignorant and is the absolute worse response. I wish all the clueless fucks who spend all their time talking up the importance of "mental healthcare" took just a little bit of time to actually try to understand what they're talking about because, if they did, they wouldn't ignore the huge role that external cultural factors play in shaping the ways mental illnesses manifest themselves.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;44914448]Yo I went over this in the last thread but no mental illness can transform a person into a psychotic gunman all on it's own; there isn't any disorder in the DSMV which causes that to happen. Mental illnesses like schizoaffective disorders and antisocial personality disorder can merely make someone unstable, but if you just look at this dude's youtube videos and manifesto it's obvious that there was a calculated, ideological element to his violence and that is not something which just appears out of thin air. Denying that larger cultural attitudes about women played any part in this guy's attitudes despite all of the blindingly obvious evidence to the contrary and just shrugging your shoulders and saying "well he was just crazy" is fucking stupid and willfully ignorant and is the absolute worse response. I wish all the clueless fucks who spend all their time talking up the importance of "mental healthcare" took just a little bit of time to actually try to understand what they're talking about.[/QUOTE] You'll never eliminate everything that can make people angry. If he didn't go batshit because women rejected him, he'd do it for another reason eventually. It's hopeless to try to solve mass murder by addressing catalysts, you have to adtress the illness that allowed them to commit the murder.

What's wrong with "text me when you get home safe" exactly, my girlfriend says that to me all the time

[QUOTE=Venezuelan;44914472]What's wrong with "text me when you get home safe" exactly, my girlfriend says that to me all the time[/QUOTE] Because apparently the world is only a dangerous place for women.

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44914436]So you're telling me that a person of perfectly sound mental condition stabbed 3 people and shot 3 more because he was annoyed with a situation?[/QUOTE] You can have things not be fucked with the hardware/software and still come to nasty conclusions, especially if lead in that direction. You could say what you said of it, if you were fond of massive understatement. [editline]26th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Venezuelan;44914472]What's wrong with "text me when you get home safe" exactly, my girlfriend says that to me all the time[/QUOTE] More that it's needed than it being a thing.

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44914467]You'll never eliminate everything that can make people angry. If he didn't go batshit because women rejected him, he'd do it for another reason eventually.[/QUOTE] No, this is an awful response and you have no way of proving it's true in the slightest. This is tantamount to shrugging your shoulders and giving up. [QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44914467]It's hopeless to try to solve mass murder by addressing catalysts, you have to adtress the illness that allowed them to commit the murder.[/QUOTE] IMPROVING OUR CULTURAL ATTITUDES IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF IMPROVING THE WELFARE OF MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE. We can't forcibly make every American submit to mental health screenings. There are no magic pills we can force people to take that "cures" them of a broad range of various kinds of psychological disorders. Public healthcare and mental healthcare in public education can help the problem somewhat but unless we start to actually take a step back and reappraise our fucked up culture, with all of it's glorification of violence and all it's sexism and all it's racism then mentally ill, vulnerable people are still going to have that awfulness filter into their psyches and come to drastic, violent conclusions. Don't just fucking shake your head and say "well it's always going to happen anyway."

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44914432]His rampage was motivated by gender and is basically the extreme version of what happens to women every day.[/QUOTE] Because men are not shot every day am I right?