• A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is 100 percent fatal
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So if the tech of transferring brain into a computer simulation never happened you will just end up with bunch of brains in glass cases?
Boy this sure is fucking HORRIFYING. First off, this is essentially a glorified taxidermy of the human brain/body where they're injecting an embalming agent designed to encase all your cells and essentially fossilize them in a very advanced fashion. HOWEVER, they require that you be injected with this chemical while STILL ALIVE, so imagine something like liquid concrete/glue being injected into your body, slowly filling your brain, and having your cells slowly die from lack of blood flow/oxygen while also being encased in this "advanced chemical solution", all while still alive. Assuming that even HALF of your cells/neurons 'survive' the process long enough to be.. fossilized, they're relying on the idea that in the future we'll have 3D scanning equipment accurate enough to read the near-atomic structure all the way through the fossilized brain in an X-Ray fashion, WITHOUT damaging said fossil in the process, and then ONTOP of that, you'll only end up with a VERY rudimentary map of the embalmed neurons. But then ontop of that, we suspect memories are stored chemically along/within the neurons themselves, and I don't believe this process will be able to preserve those chemicals nearly well enough/at all to be able to decode any sort of memories. So assuming this process isn't completely a sham and doesn't completely render your cells as nearly useless, and at least half of your braincells are preserved, AND that in the future we have amazing atomic-scale 3D x-ray scanning equipment of some kind, and that we can develop a way to remap those preserved cells back to a functioning state in a computer simulation... that's still all it will ever be. Not your revived self, but a computer simulation of your brain based on a very shitty fossilized version of your mapped brain neurons. BEST CASE SCENARIO: In the far far far future, a retarded digital copy of your brain with none of your memories but same/similar neuron mapping might be able to live a new, digitized life born as a new entity and have to learn everything over again, but will be able to learn and process information is a very similar fashion to how you learn and process information yourself. In short, this is fucking stupid and literal torture of people at the end of their life, but hey you'll have one sick as fuck expensive fossilized version of your brain to hand down to your grandkids or something.
Well, technically they're actually just glass brains. Because the agents used by these companies cause vitrification of the cells. So uhh, yeah, it literally turns the brains to glass.
So you get to become a FUCKING SICK desk ornament until someone finally figures out how to cram what's left of your brain into a killbot. Sign me up fam
That would be a legit cool twist in a sci-fi short story.
I feel like we don't (and maybe we'll never) know enough about consciousness for mind uploads to still have "you" in whatever copy is made. I know that's not really the point of this service but for some reason that kinda spooks me.
Well to make omelettes you need to break some eggs, if ethics were always so forced as they are today, we'd probably be eating dirt
Yes but in this case the egg is your brain, and you are most definitely breaking it with this
What makes you think some future dystopian fascist-government wont just use your replicated consciousness to examine the mental stress a human mind experiences from being resurrected as a sentient roll of toilet paper or something?
Nothing at all. Digitize your soul at your own risk, people.
Why would I care if a copy of me existed in the future? We are already equipped with the requisite hardware to produce a little hybrid half copy of ourselves with another human being. It is also a lot more fun than pumping your brain full of embalming fluid.
I've seen countless of estimates of the brain's "computational power" estimated over the years, all of them varying wildly. I'm fairly certain that these guesses are all totally off because the brain, while it is a computer of sorts, doesn't store or calculate data in at all a similar way to digital computers.
Oh yeah it's absolutely wrong because of how the brain does and doesn't work vs. a traditional computer, but it's the best equivalent and estimate that we have to date. It's a flawed model to begin with, but it's the best equivalency we can give for perspective to people who aren't really into the fine complexities of neuroscience.
Your data is sold as part of the liquidation and your consciousness gets put to work in a bitcoin mine
In 2014, we did manage to get a Supercomputer to model one second of human brain activity... but it took 40 minutes to actually "get ready" before the simulation actually took place. It's still really interesting stuff!
The wheel now comes with Wifi.
Whatever corporation buys your brain implants it into a Roomba where you spend decades cleaning some shithole restroom in a skyscraper, all the while wondering why they programmed the ability to feel self pity and suicidal thoughts.
you won't but if you incorporate it into your psyche, your AI duplicate might.
This is more like breaking a carton of eggs by throwing them on the floor, then letting them sit in a puddle while figuring out what to do with them.
put my brain into the body of a cute girl when I wake up thanks
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