picturing an era where every car on the road is autonomous and your car is accelerating at 80mph through intersections that have no traffic lights, only to pull into your driveway and bump into your garage door before it gets a chance to open all the way
I agree, but what I'm saying is that a driver in a non-autonomous car is more likely to be paying attention than a "driver" in an autonomous car.
Well of course they're supposed to be there for "emergency guidance" but, I agree with you, you would never see anybody sitting there attentive at the wheel. You'd definitely see people reading books and sleeping and shit at the wheel.
We're not in the year 2100, these self-driving cars are in their infancy so yeah you should be paying attention at all times while it's driving
Well, fair enough. I thought you were trying to absolve the car of responsibility.
It's a real shame someone died, but as callous as it sounds, it's better for these incidents to happen while they are still operating on a small scale so that the issues that cause them can be rectified before they try to replace their whole fleet with driverless Ubers. I would much rather a bug in the system kills one woman and gets fixed than have it to go undetected until after an international rollout where it is present in hundreds of thousands of vehicles.
I assume all self driving cars are using their own developed software. It should really be open source. People shouldnt die in early trials if altogether they can be pushed more advanced.
The error which caused this fatality may not be an error in other car self driving softwares.
the reason that captcha works is not because "classifying images of cars is super hard", but because it adds an additional bar to entry, and can ask you to classify from a large group of objects
so unless every bot you've got, is running a trained model on all the different objects that Google's recaptcha can ask you about, the system works - and 99% of bots won't do this because it isn't worth it (and the image check is not the only check that captcha uses to detect bots).
NYT reports that Uber's self-driving cars are totally shit, they are struggling to meet a target of going 13 miles between needing a human intervention, while Google's Waymo is averaging 5,600 miles
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/technology/uber-self-driving-cars-arizona.html
Add it to the pile of reasons why Uber is just a plain bad company I guess
Dude, people have issues focusing on the road when they're driving, imagine trying to focus on the road while not driving. I'd hazard to say that it isn't even possible.
It's their job
Okay cool, it's "their job".
How completely irrelevant. It is not reasonable to expect a person to remain passively alert while they aren't doing anything for hours. Nobody can do that.
Yeah honestly I would place some additional blame on Uber depending on how long drivers' shifts are. I understand that on paper it sounds great having one person do an 8 hour shift of sitting in a car doing nothing, but you're probably getting 2-3 hours at most of actual attentive driving/supervising. They need to be swapping people out much more regularly so that people are actually focusing and "doing their job".
I don't really disagree, but it is what they've signed on for, and if they can't do it and someone gets hurt, are going to be reprimanded. I don't really think such long shifts should be used either.
You can't blame an employee for failing to do a superhuman feat. That's like getting mad at a lifeguard for letting someone drown when you only hired 3 for the entire beach. It's just not their fault at a certain point.
I wouldn't exactly call paying attention for 8 hours superhuman
Well it seems by smurfy's article Uber just generally doesn't have their shit together at all, alarming that they are doing field testing whatsoever given that.
Ok we're talking about this again for some reason.
Heavy machinery operators do that exact thing all the time, wait patiently until needed and then spring into action, or perform boring monotonous tasks. They are still expected to not kill people when they are on the job. If you can't be a backup driver in a moving vehicle when that's your job, then you shouldn't be doing that job. How is that completely irrelevant?
My brain is exploding, I don't know how to state this in a simpler fashion. If your job is to do something, and then you don't/won't do that thing, why are you employed?
Maybe you're right and she wasn't mentally capable of paying attention, but if that's actually the case Uber should not have been employing her to do that job in the first place, and that's just another huge lapse in safety protocol.
Paying attention for 8 hours while not having to touch or do anything at all is absolutely superhuman
Heavy machinery operators do more than "nothing" for hours upon hours. Namely, they communicate with others on the job site.
If you're a backup driver to a self driving car, you are doing literally nothing for hours.
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