Hopefully it will be their downfall, though it almost certainly won't. "Too big to fail" is easy to slip on, but in this case I think it's fair to say.
Ian, Hickok45 and other Youtubers already have their own video host though, don't they?
Full30.com
Ian's also stated he's been prepared for the possibility of demonetization, and is basically independent of youtube's revenue now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB8NmJGenyc
Sorry yeah I meant full30, not InRange. InRange is Ian's other show.
Though to be honest, I'll probably end up checking in on Ian and his chill chats about rad shit much less frequently if he has to leave youtube altogether. Simply less convenient to go to another site.
I just want to know what the justification is for this. What's the logic?
“Guns are scary and we can get out way if we get gun owners to shut up and not be able to do gun shit anywhere”.
just as stupid as Bumble banning people having pictures with guns in them.
just once I'd like to see a living human from youtube actually explain and justify one of their shitty decisions instead of the robotic message about policy changes
I could at least understand the vague reasoning behind banning the bump stocks and shit even if I disagree with it, but there's no logic to this overall policy other than guns = bad
I have been watching Forgotten Weapons on full30.com for years now, and supporting Ian on Patreon for the same duration. I say that his content is definitely worth 1$ every month, and I would gladly pay more if I had a more steady income. It is about time that all of you go and support Ian directly through Patreon instead of relying on him getting ad revenue, as many of his videos have already been demonitized by YouTube.
Forgotten Weapons won't really get screwed by this, because already gets a big majority of his funding from patreon.
Well, There goes forgotten firearms.
Youtube is more than just funding, it's a host and a platform to reach a bigger audience.
It's not about funding, it's about getting their channels deleted because they don't follow some ambiguous "moral guidelines". Who's gonna watch them if their youtube page gets deleted? Some people follow them on full30, but I'd imagine it's probably about 3% of their total viewers
Shows users how to install the above-mentioned accessories or modifications.
high capacity magazines (i.e., magazines or belts carrying more than 30 rounds).
So, I might be reading into this the wrong way, but isn't the process of 'installing' a high capacity magazine or belt just... using it at all? I know it won't be applied even remotely consistently but as-written this applies to a staggering amount of innocent content.
Of all the firearms channels to ban, Forgotten Weapons should be dead last on YouTube’s list. Ian’s videos are fun and informative, and he makes every effort to discuss firearms purely in a mechanical and historical context without dabbling in political diatribe. (MAC, by contrast, is a much more overtly political channel.) What’s more, he goes out of his way (particularly in InRange’s historical coverage of various wars) just how dark and violent much of firearms history is, and why we shouldn’t repeat the mistakes of the past.
My understanding of Ian’s relationship with RIA and JDJ is that they grant him access to their auction lot and in exchange he gives them a bit of added exposure. Pretty innocuous but all the same Ian is demonetizing his YouTube content to avoid conflicts and is asking for Paterson donations instead.
I’m seriously considering donating some money to Forgotten Weapons via Patreon because they’re an awesome channel and don’t deserve to get caught up in YouTube’s overreaction.
Fucking assholes.
Here's hoping Demolition Ranch doesn't get affected by this, he's a pretty down to earth dude.
Honestly there's probably a huge demand for a new major video hosting hub that doesn't give a fuck about censorship
i think forgotten weapons is OK because its not private sale but it might get flagged frequently
Fug, I was planning on making a few videos of my goof-ups with making the double barrel shotgun from Rust, but guess that's no longer possible.
and innocent people get swept up by it and fucked.
That's not a reason to be okay with it, or go ahead with poor rule making.
Creating videos for auctionhouses (Rock Island and James D. Julia) is the main way Ian gains access to the rare firearms the channel features. Although I imagine at this point his reputation is such that they would let him continue doing what he does even if YouTube doesn't allow him to mention them.
He uploads most of his content to full30 as well.
I really don't see why anybody would be on YouTube trying to find a way to convert their rifles to fully automatic, that seems like a way to get noticed by the ATF in a jiffy. And if they really want to find out, they're not gonna go "oh hey there's no videos for it on YouTube, guess I'll never know" and give up. Seems like a non-issue that they're turning into a problem.
Have them host outside the United States and away from our overzealous copyright law?
This is a darn shame. I am a visual learner, so when I get a new accessory or have a question about for instance, how to install a part or clean a specific spot on my gun the first thing I do is look up a tutorial on youtube. Same for modifications. And I am also building a gun legally and I like to watch other people do it so I have a good visual example as opposed to just reading instructions off a piece of paper
Way back in the day there used to be a plethora or home made gun videos and the like, some of which had questionable components and functions. I distinctly remember a guy who made a straight up home built Mac-10, with what appeared to be an auto sear in the trigger, and he had a follow-up video as to how he made it. To my knowledge that been taken down, but it's not like it was the only videos. Just like people go to YouTube to learn how to fix their car or program, I'm sure folks have used it to search for more illicit things. I mean if you wanted to learn how to make explosives there's dozens of videos that are Education at heart but show you what chemicals you'd need to make certain compounds.
Reminds me of how someone once posted a guide on how to manufacture a submachine gun on Facepunch to prove how easy it is to find that stuff.
Ironically I have not been able to find that exact guide again, but I have found others
