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It's far from a necessity. Most districts don't have a similar system, yet don't suffer school shootings.

And how many of those that don't HAVE suffered school shootings? How many of those that DO have had a school shooting?

What point are you even arguing?

Literally all I'm saying is it's also not an entirely effective solution anymore than arming teachers would be, because you're still adding that human element that can just up and decide "lol nope not paid enough for this shit".

Canada is a very very very different country bud. Culturally, socially, economocially, diversity, population density, population centers, ect. Literally apples to oranges. Canada and America have people that speak English, and thats where the similarities end. Enacting laws that work somewhere else and expecting them to work in the US is down right foolish. Expecting 300 million-1 billion guns to actually get registered is foolish. Making 99% of gun owners paper criminals is foolish. With the amount of guns in the US, the laws could be circumvented so easily its not even funny. Forcing compliance would take centuries. Let me reiterate the important part of my post you ignored; further gun regulations treat a symptom of a problem. If you want to solve the problem instead of bandaiding it, go after the source.

I'm not ridiculously anti-gun, but my general idea would be the obvious strengthening background checks, requiring concealed carry permit to even own a handgun, and a lower tier of permit that's easy to obtain for anything semi-automatic, and there can be exceptions for rural areas like in Australia. Gun buyback programs ala something like the Cash 4 Clunkers idea to just lower the general guns-per-capita, also while unrestricting things like attachments that don't increase any actual lethality factor (stuff like silencers, etc.). You have to bear in mind no law is going to be 100% effective, but they tend to have trickledown effects on how easy they are to obtain from supplier to criminal. Just because someone is willing to curtail the law to obtain one doesn't mean we have to let it be easy, sometimes it'd take too much effort to get one, lawbreaking or not. A place like Japan would be extremely difficult to obtain a a handgun period because of how low the firearm-per-capita is, regardless of how many laws you're willing to break. And the problem with places with high restricted gun laws yet still have high gun crimes is a place like Chicago where they have some of the strictest gun laws in the US, but it's super easy to grab one in Wisconsin or Michegan which are right next door.

No, we complain about people's ideas because they're often from a position of ignorance about our gun laws or about guns in general. We get these unreasonable demands from our own politicians already, so forgive us if we don't feel as if "just copy Country X" is a good suggestion.

sorry, don't care about kids dying. i have a micropenis and visit the range every day to grab a big gun, compensate, and shoot targets. if you take that gun away from me, what you are saying is... what you are saying is that micropenis lives don't matter. you hear me? you do not get to put the lives of some (((high school educated))) kids above my personal freedoms. its in the constitution. and the guy who wrote the constitution, right, mr. george washington, he had a micropenis too, you know? and he had guns, lots of em.

What did you mean by this

Are you trying to win worst post of the year?

If they create a registry, what stops them from just closing the registry, creating a de-facto permanent ban on all new firearms?

I heard Australians had advanced shitposting technology but this beyond what the boys at the lab ever imagined.

NPR is running a "bully" segment this week. Today they discussed bullying in regards to school shootings. It's not the people being bullied doing the shootings, it's the bullies themselves. They said that people who become bullied internalize their pain, which later in life leads to heavy depression and anxiety disorders, but "very rarely results in physical violence" because it's all kept inside.

Ive presented solutions in other threads dozens of Ok, heres the thing man. This is an internet forum, not a congressional or senate session. What we do and say here literally doesn't matter. So please dont get all high horsey because I disagreed with you and didnt immediately present a different solution. I'm not disagreeing with you because your ideals differ from mine, I'm disagreeing with you because your proposed solutions will not work. How do we know this? Because they havent worked in the past. Ending the war on drugs, creating proper societal safety nets, addressing rampant poverty in urban areas, raising minimum wage, universal provided wages, raising education funding especially in inner cities, and a dozen other things. The solution isnt just "ban gun". The problem goes a lot deeper than that and thebsolution is even more complicated. But in short, make the US a better ppace and crime loses its meaning, and gun crime slows nd stops.

If the root issue is addressed, what do the distribution of firearms have to do with anything at that point?

lmao what do you think pawn shops just hand guns out or something?? they have to be FFL registered as they're a business. And the whole gun-show thing has been shot down on FP a few times, but to reiterate it is that nearly everyone at a gun-show is a licensed FFL. It's expensive to buy a table at a gun-show, and if the ATF even catches a whiff of you making a profit (ie selling lots of guns) without being an FFL you're going to get fucked by them. It's not worth it in most cases to buy a table at a gun-show to make a private sale or two. And to echo what others have said, open NICS up to the public so that way when someone wants to make a private sale they can just run the same background check that FFLs have to run.

Explain without googling what you actually know about buying a gun in the US.

You have to do background checks at pawn shops and the vast majority of booths at gun shows. Private sales is the only place you don't need to do a background check. A licensing system has shown, especially in heavy left states, to be used as a de-facto ban. This is why they had to be sued and brought to the supreme court. Also, who is going to pay for it? It's been established already that the government can't put a right behind a paywall because it infringes on people's exercise of that right. A registry does absolutely nothing to help solve crime, as shown by Canada, and is nothing but an expensive shopping list for the government to come after people. These solutions aren't solutions. They aren't effective, and won't be in the US.

Strange, it hasn't worked at all in US states that implemented it. What works in other countries doesn't always work in all countries.

Why not? They're not the cheapest things around and are easily pawned. Not to mention, historic firearms. If you have to go through NICS like any other FFL, who fucking cares? Like it's such a stupid argument "why can some people in rural areas get a hunting rifle and ammuniton at walmart". It's such a non-argument because you have to go through the same process as with any other FFL. It was "Real Sports" on HBO, and the entire episode was about bashing guns. I'd be curious to know if it was a setup as a result. However, the only sources discussing it I've found are fairly biased towards the left, or really biased to the right. But from what I can tell from the episode it aired on, it had a distinct agenda and was looking to prove a point, rather than actually test to see what was possible. According to VA law, it's perfectly legal for someone under 18 to own a rifle. I do not see that as a bad thing, especially when it comes to something like a .22. Help teach firearm safety at the 10-13 age range with something like a .22. Teach them to respect the weapon and handle it properly.

That's illegal.

The point is it's already illegal, so I don't know how you expect us to make it more illegal. Both the seller of the gun and the kid committed a crime by partaking in the transaction. Making things illegal doesn't stop everyone from doing them.

"blows itself to shit" what are you getting at here? Gun crime is on the down-slope like it has been for most of our lives, it's not a problem that's getting worse and worse. Do you legitimately have any information on this topic besides a CNN video? Like, anything at all?

there's videos of people doing meth online too. it's not like it's impossible to film illegal things

IlluminatiRex posted: lmao what do you think pawn shops just hand guns out or something?? Berman Slick: Why are weapons available at pawn shops? Because they're second-hand, just like everything else at a pawnshop?