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Liiiterally doesn't matter at all. Do you have any idea what kind of massive psychological damage having your house broken into can cause? Fuck burglars.

Something tells me that dehumanizing them and accepting that your ideology aligns with "extremely racist people" is not going to help them integrate into your/our society.

If you haven't seen a gypsy camp or lived in an area with them around, you probably don't understand, and to be honest why should I give a fuck about the circumstances that push people into breaking into my house? What about my circumstances?

My ideology doesn't align with "extremely racist people" because I'm not applying it to a race. They literally do not want to integrate. At all. They have no intention of it and are extremely proud about the fact that they are separate. If you aren't personally familiar, you should really look this up. I'm confident that any source you can find will guide you to the realization that these people are not a benefit to society and are also making no attempt at integrating. Again. I am not talking about Romani people. I am talking specifically about those that choose to live in caravans.

Tolerating home invasions and thievery also isn't going to be very conducive to integration with society..

It can be hard to understand how bad it is if you haven't experienced it first-hand, I don't blame you for being leary.

Racist people have more things wrong with their ideology than simply race. It's tribalism, it's in-group out-group, it's the sense that other people are intrinsically different from you, it's saying that they can't be helped and SHOULDN'T be helped and then wondering why they're not integrating.

They literally do not want help They literally do no want to integrate Please spend ten seconds and learn some background on the culture you are talking about I didn't call you a snowflake or insult you at all? How do you suggest that we lend a helping hand? I tried to give 10 euro to a beggar that appeared to be at death's door and some little fucking ankle biters stole my fucking wallet while I was doing it because it was a goddamn trick.

Educate them? Break up their caravans and give them homes in different parts of the country so they have to integrate? I don't know, but I can tell you that just hating them and dehumanizing them is going to get us nowhere. To me, the ultimate realization is that you, or I, could have been born as a gypsy. We were just lucky that we weren't, so how can you say they deserve it, or ask for it, how can you not see them as equals to yourself that have a disgustingly toxic mindset? I guess because you got robbed?

In Ireland travellers use different identities to claim social welfare payments while dodging any checks and knock on doors trying to sell stolen stuff. Usually whatever they get from a lorry they steal over night. The government has been trying to integrate them, some of the travellers have integrated, but the majority don't want to and they disown any who do integrate. There's no clean and easy solution because the traveller community is entirely insular and proud of it.

Stupidly easy to play the good samaritan behind your keyboard but in real life when you're getting your house broken into multiple times because of these kind of people and seeing them beat the shit out of family friends in the street because they're black (but yea i'm racist for saying fuck those guys when they literally commited a hate crime) it's hard to empathise with a group of people who's sole way of getting by is leeching off other people. Most of my life the term Gypsy/Traveller has had no racial connotations to it, it's just what people call those that partake in that lifestyle of trespassing and unlawfully parking their caravans and living out of them while leeching their chosen area dry of everything, copper wiring under the ground, money in your wallet, shit from your house, you name it and they'll take it.

If I was born as a gypsy I'd leave my shit life and pursue a legitimate lifestyle while knowing that I wouldn't die homeless due to Europe's fine social services

Embarrassing mindset, assuming nothing is done to help them. He literally posted that he got robbed while trying to help them, some gypsies got offered jobs around me and they turned it down because stealing is more profitable.

Maybe you should look up troubles people in Europe actually have with travellers before acting all high and mighty. It's easy to offer solutions when you don't know what has already been tried and failed.

Uh, no. It is perfectly reasonable to judge somebody for a choice that they have made. Kumbayah and all that for things that aren't choices, but if you choose to live in a destructive way then It is perfectly reasonable for me to dislike you.

So if they don't pull themselves up by the bootstraps then...fuck em? If they don't have your values then fuck them, because we all know that people choose their beliefs and values.

That's literally not what he said. He said he'd try to integrate, go to school, and know that if he fails he'd be supported by the social services of Europe. BTW, if he even tried that his traveller family would disown him and pretend he doesn't exist. I've seen it happen, on multiple occasions.

how about instead of being aggresive try and a) understand the problem at hand and b) come up with some sort of solution instead of berating us for being fed up with what are literally thieves and scumbags

If your values involve stealing my shit and actively resisting integrating while using my tax dollars to fund your lifestyle then I literally hope that you go away and I don't particularly care how you get removed

Nice literally content-less response

I defend them because I see other humans as equals, I don't want to judge people for their beliefs and mindsets because I don't believe they choose them. Thus, I feel there is an obligation to protect all humans no matter their "sins" even if they really make me angry and take my stuff

You've not even identified 90% of the issues people have brought forward and have just parroted "All humans are equals." over and over while people have tried to open your eyes.

With this mindset, you can't blame anyone for anything they do ever because all actions are justified in the eyes of those committing them. Does this protection not extend to their victims?

reminds me of when a guy from around here was arrested for being a notorious drug dealer some said he had it coming with the display of nice cars and big ass expensive dinners, other outright defended him, probably because they either were like him or are apologetic towards his choices in life

Oh no! Think of the poor, poor burglars! You should just let anyone who breaks in to your house steal everything you own, it's clear they need it more than you!

Buddy this is the 21st century. We have laws. They are clearly breaking the law by stealing people's shit and threatening them. They have been given more than enough chances to integrate and become part of society, but they refuse. Their way of life actively harms anyone who isn't their own kind. You can feel obligated to defend them as much as you want, but at the end of the day most folks don't care for Travelers and they have good reason to want them away from their private property. If someone breaks into my house and threatens my life you better believe I am going to fight back even if it means ending their life. No amount of care for human life is going to make me forfeit my own because a burglar feels like having a five finger discount.

I thought Gypsies were a very European thing but it turns out I've been walking past them for years. There's a surprisingly large amount of women on the streets who have sign begging for change and a sleeping child on their lap. Except, they don't need the money. And the child is likely one they borrowed from a friend. And the child isn't asleep but drugged unconscious for a few hours at a time. And here I thought this selfish sort of lawless mob rule at the expense of society died centuries ago.

Poverty =/= excuse for crime He threatened a man with a weapon and got his comeuppance, i don't care how many TVs he has to steal to afford money to the next underground boxing match. Poverty and hardship does not give you an excuse to commit crime and doesn't make you any better for doing it.

Millions of people are able to cope through life without fucking stealing. typical for someone to pop into the thread defending these sorts of swine.