• The new Samsung Galaxy phone can't connect to the internet.
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all those poor kids before cellphones having their social development impeded
Bullied into suicide for not having internet access on their phone? What???
Sounds more like samsung is trying to sell trash and is creating reasons out of thin air for why you should buy it.
14 years goin strong and that hasnt happened but cool man
I... might want that. GF got a flip phone a while ago and she's not distracted by her iPhone anymore. I kind of want to get one too so that I won't be distracted by it. Problem is I love spotify and even if I went back to an mp3 player, I haven't found one as good as the iPod classic with the same storage or more
..so buy a flip phone or a cheap brick phone?
You must not remember the T9 days very well, do you?
are you serious? think about this for a sec, do you really think that's the point being made here
yes, because the post directly claims that their social development is being impeded because their phone wont have access to the internet.
Well I mean there is. That would be being a proper parent and making sure the devices they earn access to are used correctly and you don't just let them do whatever they wan't with them at any time. At least that seems to be a good middle ground to me, I didn't really have a good model parent growing up but that's how I would do it. If my kid got a phone, I would make sure it wasn't being used at the expense of things they needed to be doing first, or footing the bill every time they used it too much to show them the power it had.
With things like Cambridge Analytica happening, you best know I'd be weary about giving unfettered access to things like Facebook and Instagram.
Seems like a cool idea. more and more people are trying to find ways to disconnect themselves from the big distractions of constant internet access and before you say 'just have self control', try writing a song or taking notes on a cellphone for an hour or more without checking social media or facepunch. shits a tough habit to break. price points a lil high but if its got good specs its hard to blame samsunf for trying to make profit off this. I can think of at least 4 big name comedians who i could see buying this.
they weren't impeded because they didn't live in a context where everyone else communicated via the internet
if you think that the solution to this issue is to just give in and let them have internet access constantly, you are very uncreative. I appreciate the benefit of internet access on a whim but i was born in 97 and even i can see a clear issue with the way you and most people look at this.
people at a time when the internet didn't exist had no problems with not having internet. wow. no shit. that's not really the point, is it
Yeah I'm sure other students will be willing to waste money on messages and calls instead of leeching off the school's wifi and use whatsapp.
I mean we didnt have internet on phones growing up and were like the last generation of people who understand why overuse is awful for your social development.
I suppose, but who is it for? I don't even have a facebook or any social media for mental health reasons and I've never used facepunch mobile so for people like me it's not hard at all, I'd imagine there are many others that find the idea unappealing at best. For students it seems kinda useless too. For older people it seems too expensive, surely they would rather save 200 bucks and just use a landline and a clamshell phone marketed towards them specifically. It has good specs but for what? What apps can it even use and how do you get them on there? Using .apk? But only the more tech savvy-ish people would do that, and why would they want this thing? It all just seems kinda contradictory to me, ya know, especially at that price. It reminds me of Steam Machines. A niche product at an oddly high price for a niche I'm not sure even exists.
downloading an apk is piss easy, if youve transfered songs from your pc to your phone you can install an apk. for the senior thing, i can personally say i see a load of old folks with 600 dollar iphones they barely use, 200 bucks for a new generation smartphone with decent specs is pretty cheap tbh. with an android phone you get a full touch keyboard which is one of the most intuitive control methods for kids and seniors thanks to adjustable ui scaling, not to mention the rest of the like 50 accessability features android has now. its definitely niche, but theyre definitely recycling hardware and im sure it costs samsung nothing to pump these guys out. obviously this isnt raw fact, but listening to Joe Rogan, Ari Shaffir and co. they are always talking about the efforts they go to disconnect from constant internet access because it really is a highly reductive form of communication and its a constant subconcious distraction to the vast majority of people. Im not saying youre wrong with how youre looking at this, cause yeah at skin level this is a strange product to see, but theres a conversation around the value of devices like this thats steadily growing in our modern society filled with dehumanized communication via social media and constant data collection and surveillance
i volunteered at an organization where religious people had us disable wifi/mobile data on their iphones, this would be a big hit for them
did you just ignore my post where there are plenty of kids in the world who don't have phones with internet access
plenty of them do just fine. plenty of them have their social development impeded by being denied access to tools their peers use on a constant basis. is this outrageous to you?
you cant bring this up without recognizing that there are real quantifiable drawbacks when it comes to interpersonal engagement due to growing up using primarily indirect communication
i can. just did. but if you insist, yes, there's obvious drawbacks to our overuse of technology. but i think teaching kids to use it healthily (as healthily as we know how to, however imperfect that may be atm) is less problematic than outright depriving them of communication tools this widely used.
Yeah, why stop at the internet? Don't give them a phone at all! That'll encourage them to actually go out and meet people, like back in the good old days when everything was better.
I think youre putting farrr too much faith in the average humans self control. its hard enough to train yourself to disconnect, let alone push that on a child who has been innoculated in the internet since birth. I dont really get what your point is if youre trying to say youd prefer to teach kids how to control themselves, wouldnt this phone coupled with a PC for webtime be the perfect self control training wheels?
Hey dood its 2018 and unlimited calls/text plans/data plans start at $45 a month. So thats not an excuse but good try
i don't think it's good that we rely so much on technology, i just accept the reality that we do. and for my kid, i'd choose the downsides of smartphones over depriving them of important communication tools 10 times out of 10. it's an inescapable part of teenage life for many - maybe not some kid in rural albania, or a dude who's so exceptionally extroverted and active, he does just fine, socially, without the internet, but for the average person, yeah.
And thats your call, i just hope you actually sit down and do some real research on the topic in the future so you have a genuinely educated mindset for why this conversation is happening and what the real pros and cons of disconnection is
that is useless right from the get go because you could achieve the very same by simply not trying to find the wireless/3G network buttons.
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