The new Samsung Galaxy phone can't connect to the internet. - Sensationalist Headlines

Im 42 and have 1,500 or so customers that still use SMS. So Im sorry you have hipster friends who dont use sms for some reason.

Couldn't you just get classic series Nokia phone? :/

Maybe because it fucking sucks?

Yeah, I ain't use SMS for really anybody anymore either asides from family. It limits the kinds of files you can send, has limited group features, isn't as fast, can be spotty if you're in an area with poor signal, is stuck to your phone, sometimes chops messages apart, and is insecure as shit. Iphones already omit SMS and use iMessage for anyone who's capable of accepting it, and most android users I know use shit like telegram (it's also probably only a matter of time until google does something similar.)

For all the people moaning about the price- it's obvious that Samsung know this will definitely be a less popular product, so they've had to inflate the prices slightly to subsidise the fewer production runs and make it worth their time to develop something like this. For the person who will inevitably post after me saying 'oh but flip phones don't cost tht much'... that is true. However, a flip phone isn't a smartphone without an internet connection. This is still a device that will be able to run apps that don't need an internet connection.

No ot doesn't.

I see absolutely no reason to stop using regular phone calling. Doesn't require extra apps, doesn't use data.

SMS is objectively awful. -Can't transmit over WiFi - limited to mobile data which is often less reliable -Terrible send/receive speeds, especially if you push the: -Extremely limited multimedia capability -No automatic backup from the cloud without an app to do it for you. Limited to local storage by default. -No read receipts, activity statuses, etc -Group texts are a fucking mess SMS has been surpassed in every way by iMessage, WhatsApp, Telegram, even fuckin Facebook Messenger is so much more usable despite all the spying. If you find SMS acceptable to use, fine, but saying it's just as good as the modern competition is just silly.

SMS is fine. -I live in rural ND, drive all over ND and Montana, and can think of 2 places where reception is too poor to send a text. Wifi wouldnt help you there because there isnt any. Mobile data is often as fast or faster than wifi, unless youre on a garbo prepaid network that throttled you. -send-receive is literally like 2 seconds dood. What kind of fast paced life are you living? -i can send and receive pics and can link for everything else. -why do you need to back up text messages lol -find me a person under 80 who has read receipts on -group texts work just fine Text messaging works fine. Sure whatsapp has better encryption and what not but its capabilities are no better than sending an SMS. Hop down off the technology high horse. Ive used line and slack and whatsapp and have always reverted back to my default sms client because why would I want another third party app to do what my phone does just fine in house?

Its news to me that people dont use SMS much anymore. I've never been a big social media person so I usually just text my friends to make plans.

2 seconds can legitimately be too slow for fast-paced group chats and such. It just feels worse too, instant feedback is good for UX. I don't want to lose my texts?? I often find myself needing to refer back through months of messages to find something in particular. So my messages being stored on a server is very preferable. EVERYBODY uses read receipts in messaging. Most apps don't even allow you to turn them off, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

I've seen pre-paid smartphones cheaper than this, what a ripoff.

complaining about "the youngins and their newfangled technology" as a 40-something-year-old man on a video game forum probably isn't going to get you very far tbh

Imagine legitimately thinking 2 seconds is to slow. Fair enough. Im never texting social security numbers or talking about legal procedures via messaging do i dont have that isdue. My mom uses read receipts because she doesnt know how to turn them off. The last thing I want is a person to know my activity. The fucks the point of anouncing "hey ive seen your text but I havent responded"

Any system that takes 2000 ms to send 2 kb of data has serious issues.

If you think getting your kid a shitty no-internet phone is good parenting because it will make them value face-to-face interactions more, you are fucking stupid. Restricting your child will not make them learn, it will only teach them to bypass your concept of how a child should develop. Teaching virtue to your kid takes time and honesty, not being restrictive.

Oh no my device that miraculously lets me communicate to people thousands of miles away via satellites and a global network of computing takes 2 seconds!!!! Its too slow and has SERIOUS issues. completely UNUSABLE. Next youll tell me airplanes arent a viable method of travel because they take too long to board.

Are you going to stop being a petty clown about this any time soon or are you just going to keep grumbling about "those damn youths on my lawn" forever? 2 seconds is a bloody age in terms of data transfer, especially for the ludicrous size limitations of a single SMS message. I don't give a fuck about it letting me communicate with people the other side of the planet as there are better alternatives that work faster and do just that. I can send a reasonably high resolution picture faster than SMS can send 140 characters of text. It is a slow system. It has been surpassed for almost all people who own a smartphone. It is obsolete despite the fact it still has users. And that isn't even getting into the whole security aspect of SMS, where even the most secure implementations of the GSM spec are woefully lagging behind modern encryption standards, it's not trivial to break but it's also not out of the realm of impossibility to break a GSM cypher. It's not particularly hard to hijack the GSM network in a localised area with some off the shelf hardware and a bit of time, so you could even convince most phones to just switch to unencrypted communication with no warning to the user. Doing that with a Internet based chat service that uses SSL properly in the first place is borderline impossible. That ridiculous air travel "analogy" just tells me you're not really here to discuss this at all and just want to be a contrarian with no actual point to raise.

That isn't my point. SMS harks from an era when high-latency wireless connections were the norm because that's all that could be managed with the tech of the early 1990s. Since then we've made major improvements to how we handle wireless telecommunications but SMS never kept up or improved. A messaging service that spent 2000ms to send a message today would have the pitch laughed out of the room. Because that's my point, SMS is horribly outdated and its capabilities and room for improvement are completely constrained by the physical infrastructure requirements. It's existed for nearly three decades now, that's a pretty damn good run. But it just can't keep up anymore. The Internet is a much more scalable network for communications to rely upon.

No Im not going to seriously discuss this because youre not acknowledging my sole point. SMS is adequate. Thats literally my only point. I dont care that whatsapp is better. It might not be as fast or secure as slack, but I can still send text and pictures and thats perfectly acceptable for millions of users. 2 seconds to send a message is still perfectly acceptable. SMS is adequate. It sends messages, it receives them. Best of all it does it in house with no third party apps required.

Email still works fine because its standards are interchangeable. There's a reason we switched from POP3 to IMAP several years ago. Additionally it's made the transition from desktop clients to webmail, which opens up a lot of opportunity for quality-of-life development and improvements. Email still has room for improvement because of its modularity, open standards, and complete non-reliance on any physical infrastructure. SMS is, internally, a complete shitshow of closed standards that haven't been updated in decades and are reliant on ancient hardware running in cell towers. There is literally no way to improve it without dumping billions of dollars into replacing aging systems. It won't happen. SMS will go the way of AM and FM radio: It'll never completely go away, but at some point it will entirely cease being a major way that people interact. As I've linked in a post above, this has already happened in several countries such as Saudi Arabia and India.

What kind of student wants a phone with no wifi? I do loads of uni related stuff on my phone. Whoever came up with this idea is a retard

As stated earlier in the thread, this is likely intended for Asian markets where different parental culture has created a market for this kind of device.

Even still a lot of student related stuff is still done through phones online. All this does is hamper students unless chinese universities are massively different in this respect or something.

I think it's intended for children younger than that.

Nah.

I miss slamming flip phones closed to hang up.