Finland is killing its world-famous basic income experiment

[Crumpets]

excuse people for assuming your opposition was ideological as opposed to pragmatic after your first wonder of a post in here.

[rulssi]

What we were testing for was giving people equal amount of money to survive instead of over 200k people applying for 3 different financial supports all the time. "support for living" "support for unemployment or studying" and also "income support" if the first 2 weren't enough. If everyone could get the same amount of money without having to apply and fill papers for 3 different things all the time it would reduce useless tasks for social insurance institute and things would be more equal for everyone. The experiment wasn't just "hurdur lets give people free money and see what happens" because those people would have gotten that money anyway and some would have probable gotten even more.

[Olanov]

Either you can't see the bigger picture or you're straight up acting like some Russian troll. It was straight up going to expand to include working people, this is not simply unemployement benefits.

[nikomo]

The current rules eliminate a lot of possibilities for meaningful economic development, if you want to be able to pay rent.

I'd rather have people running small-volume businesses out of their homes that make a net profit, but not enough to live off it, while looking to either grow the business to a point where it can actually provide enough profit to make living possible, or until the person can find a job.
I'd also rather have people working 8 hours a week, if no other employment is available at the moment, rather than being completely unemployed.

[nikomo]

It didn't, though. It was killed by right-wing politicians. The experiment was progressing and I haven't heard of any problems with it. I've heard a few success stories but nothing negative.

Then you know absolutely nothing about Finland. A big employer in my city was moved out of the country by the Germans who owned the plant, and automation is coming for every manufacturing job.
That's kind of why they planned a second stage to the experiment where they can roll employed people and students into it, to see how it would affect them.