Ford Announces Consolidation of NA Car Lineup, Only Mustang and Focus Remain - Sensationalist Headlines

but why get a car that costs more with worse performance? Besides, like all dodge vehicles my county replaced most of them due to transmission issues out the ass.

You aren't understanding. You're comparing a twin turbo car (the exception to the rule in the PI fleet) to a NA Charger's specs. The NA PI is slower than the NA Charger you're comparing it to. For about the same price as the twin-turbo PI, you can get the scat pack on the Charger which brings its 0-60 to 4.5, almost a second and a half faster than the PI's absolute maximum, and that's nowhere near the ceiling for the Charger if you really want to push it. PIs are cheaper and they get the job done. But in terms of performance, the Charger has them beat in every category. Unless rear legroom is a performance spec.

Ford sucks at making anything that isn't the F-150, so this is hardly surprising. They half ass anything that doesn't automatically win an entire segment the moment it is released. They tried to get rid of the Taurus in 06-08 because of decreasing sales and attempted to replace it with the 500, which failed miserably thanks to their "if its not an easy winner, don't bother" and it led them to this. They just give up instead of making their winners better like foreign automakers do. CAFE also doesn't help at all with its messed up classification of automobiles and the weird bastard child position it put crossovers in.

????? In 2012 when they were showed off, the msrp of a V6 with ecoboost was cheaper than the V8 dodge charger: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/dodge/charger/2012/chevrolet-9c3-detective-caprice-vs-dodge-charger-pursuit-vs-ford-police-interceptor/ Unless the msrp has increased since then, which i cant find anything related to the newest models, the point is moot unless you want to pay for the scat pack. Which I cant even find anything about the police variant having a scat pack, even the car builder from their site doesn't have anything about having the 6.4L V8 engine.

Just wait until gas prices start going up, again, and people start looking at compact/midsize cars, again.

Honestly, they probably won't. CUVs (the small SUVs) get pretty good MPG when compared to a car. I'm just expecting people to make a sudden shift in a couple of years to some other vehicle design (back to family sedans or wagons?) and when the American companies don't have anything they want, everyone will just go with a foreign automaker while the domestic companies cry that no ones buying their SUVs. GM was already going down the path of SUV madness (in a already bland lineup, excluding the Camaro, Corvette, CTS-V, and ATS-V) and now Ford is following them. Sad thing is, Ford had a lineup where I feel they had a car for everyone and a real sport variant of it (choices!). I wonder if Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler will follow. If GM goes into bankruptcy again due to fast market changes, I can't say I'd miss them. Hopefully Hyundai, Honda, and Toyota will continue to have a full lineup when I decide to trade in my RS. And I say that as someone that heavily prefers American cars.

I doubt it, Americans like big cars, full size sedans at least. But generally prefer SUV's, trucks, or sometimes vans although minivans have been lost to the SUV market. A sizeable portion of our population would happily drive monster trucks and big-rigs if it were feasible to do so.

Here's a line I found interesting: These days, most buyers just do not want sedans when crossovers will do the same job with a minimal penalty in fuel economy. High-riding cars aren’t the “gas guzzlers” that dominated the market a decade ago. Crossovers are basically just cars, but higher up. While my last car was a 2004 Ford Explorer that did 16 MPG on a good day, I still feel like modern CUVs are missing something. I won't lie, that Explorer drove like a Ranger truck, but when I drive my dad's 2017 Explorer (now a CUV) it isn't the same. Is it because the thing is even bigger than the '04 was? Maybe. I guess what I'm trying to say is that while Crossovers/CUVs are now taking over where SUVs ruled until ~2012 or so, they should at least have the 'U' part in the same way SUVs did. I think of Crossovers of streetcars more than I do as trail-capable boat-towing kid-taxiing cargo-stuffing vehicles that you take on your 2 week vacation to the beach. The last thing that bothers me is how these cars are growing. I really don't like how wide the thing is. Here's a bad picture but you can already tell how much bigger the new one is than the old was: https://i.redd.it/2tfqotv1no2z.jpg God rest that poor old car's soul.

Makes sense. I don't think anyone cared about their other cars, besides the Ford Fiesta which was kind of a blast, but was probably a bit too niche to justify.

GM already brought over the Opel wagon and rebadged it as a Buick so there is hope in old classic American cars surviving. Too bad I'll (most likely)never get one because by the time I have the money GM will have axed it due to not enough buyers, just like how the Chevy SS died.

They did, but they also lifted it a little and added black plastic crap to it. They turned a great looking wagon into a awkward wannabe SUV.

Solid move by Ford, takes some balls but overall this change is going to do nothing but good for them in the long run. A lot of car manufacturers could do with this kind of consolidation, looking at you BMW. Went from a simple system of having your 3 / 5 / 7 series cars with the offshoot branch for Z roadsters or unique lineups. Now we have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 series cars, with X1, X2, X3, X4, X5, X6, X7's, and THEN there are distinct M variants for the 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 series, and X5M and X6M's. It's idiotic, but a trend that is quickly being taken up by most major manufacturers eager to try and make a car for literally every single tiny little slice of the income bracket. It's diluting the market and creating less and less interesting vehicles with less and less overall build quality... It's got to stop somewhere. I'm all for anyone being able to buy a car from almost any brand they choose, but why not simplify the options and focus on improving production efficiency and materials to a standard where it can all be made cheaper and onsold cheaper to the general public. It boosts your image, perceived quality, and makes one off or alternate versions of your cars more desirable and future proofed. Anyway, just my 2 cents. I'm happy Ford is doing this.

Their apparent lobbying campaign against CAFE and the 2020 fuel standards makes more sense now, a hybrid f-150 will never be able to compete with even a regular compact, its a fuckugly brick with the wrong kind of construction.

they have EcoBoost, and while that’s not a hybrid by any means it should still help with the 2020 regulations. I just hope to god this doesn’t mean the new Bronco gets aborted.

All the police departments around me have gone to Ford Explorers.

I think the police taurus is a taurus in name only and they'll probably keep building that since they have a dedicated market for decades to come.

Man this kinda sucks. My mother and I both have Ford Fusions and love them. I wonder how this will affect the cost of future repairs and resale value...

Vehicles are getting larger in part because smaller vehicles have higher cafe standards. By increasing the wheelbase, you can lower the target MPG for the vehicle.

It wouldn’t be an American land boat without the cheap plastic or lift. At least they are being smart and trying to reform Buick. I’ve seen good reviews about the new Regal Sportback, and the TourX is still a welcome addition. it’s a risk but a good one. Ford could take the chance to revive Mercury as an in-between sedan brand and keep the blue oval for trucks and crossovers. Although they still have trouble with Lincoln despite finally having the right idea with the Continental.

Damn I actually liked Ford Fusions 4d sedans.

Most cops are now getting the Explorer Interceptor: https://www.ford.com/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/police/models/utility/3-2/desktop_gal_trig_expanded_03.jpg/jcr:content/renditions/cq5dam.web.1280.1280.jpeg

My city doesn't even have car's they only use Explorers just like that picture. Been that way probably 2-3 years.

It's odd to me that they decided to keep the Focus given the multiple class action lawsuits and mass torts being sought over the blatant transmission design problems in certain submodels all the way from like 2011-2018? Source: bought a 2015 Focus Flex Fuel without googling the specific submodel for issues :|

I mean the Classic American Sedan died in 2011, when the Crown Victoria was axed. I wouldn’t call anything Ford has made since then a classic American sedan.

Well shit, I love my fusion despite was only my only option when I bought a newer used car. It's been two years and the car hasn't given me any expensive repairs to make. Honestly the fusion is a nice sporty looking for good for being a first car to a college grad, but look at the price of trucks and SUVS, I can't afford that right now :Y

Buick is huge in China for some reason. 80% are sold in China.

the focus active is an entirely new car with a regular automatic instead of the DCT

I hate how I can't edit these quotes to a certain sentence but are we going to forget about the wrangler? Considering the fact that it just recently got a new generation,there is still an audience for old world SUVs.

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/441/cbb12ddb-e516-4162-a5e1-21c1759e1138/yourewrong.mov the Wrangler will never die because it's got the doors, roof and windows gimmick. It's a great summer car.

That's true,but the wrangler is more recognized as an offroad vehicle rather than a "summer car". Also thanks for showing me that tip! I had no idea you could do that....