Boy Scouts of America dropping "Boy" from it's flagship program
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At this point both of the organizations should just merge into one. If there is no point in having gender segregation in traditionally gender segregated clubs, then there is no point having two clubs.
GSA is entirely unrelated to BSA though.
Did you read anything from the first page? The girl scouts are a completely separate organization, the only relation is the word "scouts".
There's always a point of having different "clubs", hence why the boy scouts offer cub scouts, what was previously known as boy scouts, venture scouts, sea scouts, and air scouts. Each has a core focus on something different, as does the girl scouts having their own core focus.
The girl scouts is more of a girl oriented organisation, as in their stereotypical likes and activities. The boy scouts, which has been traditionally male oriented, has a core focus on outdoor activities. Both have different things to offer for girls and young women.
Competition my dude
Yeah no joke on the physics one, I had a family come into the store at one point to get their Nuclear Science merit badge, and they went all the way over to CERN to complete it. I myself had trouble with the Water Sports merit badge, water skiing ain't as easy as it looks.
Both offer different experiences; it does go to show there are definite challenges to equality on the male side though.
i mean, if you're saying shit that might offend a number of people, even as a kid, maybe it's not worth it to say at all and more importantly, goes against the virtues of being a scout. i'd venture as far to say that if the kid's afraid of what you say in "the boys club" offending others, maybe that's a learning experience for the kid about compassion.
Back when I was growing up I had a few female classmates that would tattle on the boys for talking about dumb stuff like worms or whatever. If the nerds said anything about video games "haha boys are so dumb and nerdy" etc. It was all harmless in the grand scheme of things but at the time it was super annoying that we had to limit topics if we didn't want to get tattled on for dumb stuff or talk about hobbies we liked.
The scouts gave a solution to that where we could gather around and not have to worry about that while doing whatever physical activity we were assigned be it camping or just putting stuff together. It was kind of a safe haven of sorts for boys bein' boys.
Just worried about that being taken away, there's nothing about compassion there and it's not worth trying to make the argument about political correctness because I get where it's coming from- I just think that there should be groups open if kids themselves want it because I know it was a godsend for me in some early years.
Hoo boy I just got into a debate (of sorts) with some jack-wagon who thinks this is destroying Boy Scouts without explaining how it's destroying Boy Scouts.
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My troop consisted of boys from public schools, and some from the richer private school across the street from where we met. Students from the private school were clearly shoved in by their parents to pad their college applications. Some of them got into it, but others were incredibly unmotivated and just tried to coast through.
Our scout leadership was pretty set on ensuring that you earned your badges though. Wasn't much of an easy way to coast to the end. Those kids that didn't try would come back a few weeks before they turned 18 and would try to crank through all of their ranks and badges that should rightfully take a few years. More often then not they failed.
Hearing about "Eagle mills" is disheartening. Scouting is a great opportunity to learn valuable leadership skills and learn the value of giving back to the community. For those who don't know, to obtain the rank of Eagle, you're required to organize and run a public service project for your community. Some of the good projects I've seen have involved collecting almost a thousand pairs of shoes for charity, building new equipment for community sport fields and clearing safer trails in the forest. I've heard some horror stories of Eagle projects that were no more then just gardening projects designed to require as little work as possible. You miss out on an incredible learning experience by taking the easy way out.
Nothing makes me happier then seeing BSA open the doors to allow anyone the same wonderful opportunity I was given growing up. I'm incredibly excited to meet a new generation of hard working female Eagle scouts.
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we built a bridge from nowhere to nowhere that some idiot with a polaris destroyed a week later.
still counts for something though. it was an impressive bridge.
nope, because women are allowed to have their own private space. Men are NOT allowed to have their own private space because women are morally superior and we men NEED women to guide us and control us so that we men do not go astray.
Same here in Australia. I was in the scouts for a few years while we did things until it started just becoming who can remember the most ways to tie a knot.
Glad to see these kind of things shifting tbh. When I was in boy scouts they kicked me out because several of the troop members accused me of being gay.
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