New York Times thinks Yorkshire pudding is a dessert, Brits get angry - Sensationalist Headlines

As long as nobody insults Party Rings there will be peace in our time.

It's difficult to tie the US life expectancy purely to food considering American women have an average life expectancy of ~70 years vs. men who have a life expectancy of about ~66 years, yet more women are obese than men (41% of women vs. 38% of men). Health issues in the US are a lot more complected than "American food bad".

Women have a higher life expectancy pretty much anywhere. US women living longer despite being very slightly (3%) more obese doesn't exactly discounts the impact of obesity on life expectancy.

I never said obesity doesn't have an impact on life expectancy. I said American health issues are more complecated than "American food bad". There's a reason the obesity epidemic is at it's worse among groups that are more likely to be low income.

you take that back, like a good Sunday Roast, a well made meatloaf is delicious. Yeah the've always just been "muffins". I've never seen them classified as bread.

A Polysaccharide is literally a chain of sugars you dingus.

Yeah there are many factors at play that lead to obesity but US food being shit is the one that has the most impact and differenciates it from other nations.

Gonna need a source in that one. Most nations you can compare the US to either have an actual healthcare system or are poor so saying food specifically is what differentiates the US seems like an opinion more than anything.

Nope, I have 2 Polish Shops, another Czech one, and a Chinese Supermarket 20 minutes away. There's also a Indian Shop literally at the bottom of my road. You mean 1812 2: Burn Harder?

I'm never out of my Asian supermarket, which sells mostly Chinese and Korean stuff, because I use it in cooking all the time (Spices mostly, but also rice noodles etc) and the clientele mix is almost always a pretty even representation of the local demographic. You can't take a walk in Aberdeen without bumping into either an Asian Spice Market (primarily Indian markets) or a Polish shop. I'll never get where this meme about "Europeans are afraid of other cultures" comes from, prior to Brexit etc they were pretty much embraced here, and most folks eat broadly of different cuisine. It's a rare occasion when I cook something that would actually be considered "British".

Even the article you posted to "educate" me, disputes you. Just read what you tell other people to if you want to be the authority dude.

So why does so much American bread feel the need to add extra sugars?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polysaccharide It actually doesn't, you're aware you can research these things yourself, correct? What is the purpose of sugar in baking plain bread? Not much is added at all, and also not many breads contain added granulated sugar.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Amylose_3Dprojection.corrected.png this is the noise i make when i read about the american education system

You said bread was made of sugar. If you make bread, it is not. Now, if you read the article you posted, you'd notice that there is a differentiation made by the article as to what types of carbs there are. Simple, and complex. This denotes the nature of their bond, and the complexity of it, and the nutritients contained within. Complex Carbs are still going to break down in similar ways to sugar, but not identically, and not metabollically the same as sugar. "Carbohydrates are classified as simple or complex, Smathers said. The difference between the two forms is the chemical structure and how quickly the sugar is absorbed and digested. Generally speaking, simple carbs are digested and absorbed more quickly and easily than complex carbs, according to the NIH." Now, you've said "All bread is sugar", so to me, that doesn't seem to be correct as it pertains to this statement here. It's not just simple carbs that do break down into sugar right away. It's complex carbs that have a slower energy release, not like sugar. "Smathers pointed out that, while all carbohydrates function as relatively quick energy sources, simple carbs cause bursts of energy much more quickly than complex carbs because of the quicker rate at which they are digested and absorbed. Simple carbs can lead to spikes in blood sugar levels and sugar highs, while complex carbs provide more sustained energy." I have educated myself about the subjects, that's kind of why i'm disputing your view on these things as you've stated some things that are not in agreement with the articles you've posted.

Saying carbs are just like sugar due to the atomic arrangement is like saying hydrogen peroxide is fine too drink because it's "basically water"

The point is it's incorrect

If there's a few things Americans do better than the British, it's being dense, poverty, and inbreeding. You're 2 of the 3, and I'm guessing you're not poor.

To get back to the original point to the thread; Yorkshire puddings are made from the kind of batter that is not inherently sweet or savoury, much the same as pancakes. There's nothing to dictate that they're to be eaten sweet or savoury other than the historical way they've been served. Taking that into consideration, Yorkshires are a savoury thing. But that's not to say that they can't be eaten with something sweet, but personally I'd find that very strange as I've only ever had them as part of a roast dinner or toad in the hole. Pancakes are pretty much the same deal, nothing dictates that they're sweet or savoury if you follow a basic recipe for them, which is pretty much the same as a batter for Yorkshires. But it's generally accepted that you can have pancakes as a sweet or savoury thing because they have a much more varied history and have been used as part of sweet and savoury dishes. I mean shit, you can get pancakes with syrup or pancakes and sausage at any McDonalds. But you don't see Yorkshires being served up as a generally sweet dish, because that's not how they've ever been served before. From the time they were invented til the NYT found out about them, they haven't been served as a sweet dish.

I'll never be able to beat England's complete inability to take a joke. Imagine accusing someone of being inbred because they made fun of your food.

I called you inbred because you think England's an island. If you think England is an island, you deserve to be called inbred.

So... It's a joke if it's you saying shit, but no one else?

It's still pretty nice to take a nice, big Yorkshire and use it as an ice cream bowl though, scoop in there with some appropriate sauce. But then this is coming from someone whom is serving up carvery roast virtually everyday.

Erm, the UK is probably one of the countries that most often makes self-deprecating jokes, so I have no idea where you've gotten this notion from. Britain's culture is quite self-critical and I have always liked that about us. America is fine, but you guys have an extremely cocky attitude, so you have no right to moan about other people not being able to take a joke, as I've seen many Americans take unreasonable offence to hilarious jokes in the past. I imagine that Scotland, Wales and NI get annoyed when American TV constantly calls the whole place England. Also, I love how this thread turned into us extolling the virtues of our nations' best food.

starch is literally polymerised glucose, wtf are you on about

Because the human body doesn't treat carbs the same way it does sugar

Oh, an American finally learnt sarcasm?

This is so hilariously misguided I don't even know what to tell you. Take some time to learn about how your body works.

Except he's right? Yes, most carbohydrates eventually get broken down into glucose but the speed at which they're broken down is significant, and this has a significant effect that you're completely ignoring by oversimplifying everything to their end result.

So body builders can just eat tons of sugar instead of carbs for bulk right?