Lando Calrissian is pansexual, Solo: A Star Wars Story writer suggests
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How exactly do you scientifically prove gender identity? It's fundamentally something which exists in someone's mind. My first point is that if you want to try to tell someone their experience they say they have is invalid, you should be the one evidencing that.
That said, the term non-binary tends to cover a large range of identities, the defining trait being that they don't identify exclusively as a man or a woman. Some people just don't experience gender identity (Vi Hart has a video on that, I'd strongly recommend everyone watches it), some people alternate between binary genders and some people have an identity which isn't male or female but they identify with it strongly. That's not a complete list, just some examples. If a) binary genders exist and b) it's possible to have a binary gender which doesn't match the gender you were assigned at birth (both of which are strongly evidenced), the idea that you could have a gender identity which sits between the two isn't that much of a stretch.
As someone who actually hangs out with non-binary people, they're not weird or attention seeking or trying to win some attention olympics; they're regular people who just want to have their identities respected.
You're correct, it is something that exists in their mind. It is completely made up for no real logical reason
So to be clear, you're also of the opinion that binary genders don't exist, seen as these are in people's heads too? That's basically opposed to all scientific consensus. Something being in someone's mind is not the same as it being made up. You have a gender identity, sexuality, taste in food, music and a load of other things which both exist in your mind. You don't get to choose those but they matter significantly to you and your quality of life if people don't respect them.
You cannot make up sexuality, taste in food, music, or your gender. Those are preferences you are born with and are observable in nature. E.g. homosexuality and preference in food exists in wild animals. However, just like fairy tails, I can make up and imagine things as well
Not true at all. It's been linked to fluctuations in certain hormone levels during pregnancy - presumably those that influence development towards either male/female while in the womb.
I mean, if I really want to go down that rabbit hole I've never experienced being a woman, therefore it's possible that every woman I've ever met has been making it up they've all committed to it so hard that they're making drastically different choices to pretend a gender other than my one exists. It does, however, seem unlikely that so many people would go to all that trouble. If non-binary genders are made up then there are a hell of a lot of people going to a hell of a lot of trouble just to force you to use a goddamn gender neutral pronoun. Honestly I just don't know why you care so much to try and find ways to insist that other people's experiences are invalid because they can't prove them with science.
George invented the character therefore only his opinion matters
To be clear, that came from my post where I was pointing out that while they exist in your head you don't inherently choose them. Taste in things can be influenced by a load of things but if you don't like a food generally you can't just decide that you like it and suddenly enjoy it.
I mean, there are certain things like evidence that trans people have brains that more closely resemble the brains of people who are cis of the gender they identify with. There are actually pretty decent ways to study it and evidence to support transgenderism. Nonbinary is where things get murky and unfortunately that is where evidence does genuinely begin to come up short.
Can't really argue with that. I mean if Commander Shepard can bang any alien in the galaxy, why not a guy like Lando freaking Calrissian? Second thing he does after reuniting with Han is make a move on Leia. Dude had to be a player back in the day.
I wouldn't disagree, however, the fact that gender identity is not inherently tied to your assigned gender and the broad range of ways both trans and cis people experience and present binary genders implies that it is a super complicated thing which exists in your mind, ergo it's not that much of a stretch for people to end up with something in the middle or different in some way.
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You heard it here folks, transgenderism is not real. Nope, the mountains of historical evidence of it existing so far back to Egyptians is all fabricated. All the people who are trans now? All of them are just faking it because they love being basically black listed from society.
A big thing is that there are, broadly, three tiers. Sex which is the physical aspect, the body. Gender identity is the mental aspect, and plausibly physical in regards to the brain's structure. Gender roles/expression are social and much more influx, they're how people act and behave. Like using those three to classify a very masculine cis woman would roughly be Female/Woman/Masculine. Each tier gets a lot more broad and complicated than the previous. Sex is, relative to the other two, fairly simple although you still get issues that complicate things. Gender is noticeably more complicated than Sex, and then Gender Roles/Expression is best described as a clusterfuck. Trying to work out the interplay between the three, and especial Gender and Gender Roles/Expression is also a really complicated thing since we still don't understand a lot about Gender itself.
do you consider transwomen to be a different gender from women?
Transgender is a separate gender from cis-gender.
Eh, separate category of genders. A cis woman and trans women have the same gender.
I really dont know the word to say, but you get the idea of what im to get across.
I don't blame him, some of the new kitchenware I saw at Target looked pretty hot.
Pans have lots of curves and handles to play with.
i think it simplifies down to "everyone is hot" lmao
You can't make up being a woman though. You're either born a woman or man. There is biological evidence that transgenders have a certain feeling towards a certain gender, and they stick with that. However, from what I've seen, there is no scientific evidence to suggest that non bionarism(?) exists or is a thing people actually experience. If some one has a study I can read about that is not from a biased source I will take the time, and if it proves that being non binary or being pansexual is real then I will change my mind
Yeah honestly not really surprised, Lando always seemed like the type that'd follow the Captain Jack Harkness school:
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wouldn't Lawrence Kasdan, who help write the movie with his son also have just as much pull in this dept since he wrote empire strikes back.
Stating facts is that there are a number of studies that support pansexuality being a actual thing for decades now.
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reals over feels right?
I cant find an article that points to pansexuality being a real biological phenomenon. Can you give me a specific article? And yes, I prefer to believe facts over nonsense people spew out
Frankly, I don't understand why you even need scientific proof. Is it so hard to believe that some people find every gender to be hot?
I find pansexuality weird because of this even though I'd probably call myself one. I really doubt many heterosexual/homosexual/bisexual people would be against being in a romantic or sexual relationship with someone nonbinary as long as the parts they like aligned right. Does that technically make everyone who doesn't go "LOL 2 GENDERS" pansexual? It's dumb. I don't know who specifically bases attraction on specifically gender as opposed to just liking dicks, vag, boob, no boobs, whatever. If a heterosexual man is attracted to someone AFAB who id's as nonbinary because he likes how physically attractive they are, does that make him pan? Just find me a heterosexual dude who doesn't outright discriminate against nonbinary people but wouldn't want to date one even if the "parts" align.
Im ok with Lando being Pansexual, I mean hell, some aliens in the Star wars Universe are hot as fuck mate.
However, this, and the transexual robot thing, sounds like a getaway card just to attract attention to the movie, similar to how there was a gay character in the live Beauty and the Beast, anybody remember that? Its a tactic big corporations do that i really do not like.
Basically "Oh our movie is not doing that well, but OH LOOK THIS CHARACTER IS (insert gender here) LOOK AT US!", basically what JK Rowling is doing lately, and treat LGBTQ+ people like an object for attention.
the robot is trans? what?
I've heard this called queerwashing and I really, really hate it.
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