NFL bans kneeling during the anthem, teams will be fined for it - Sensationalist Headlines

And why is it they are "concerned" with it happening on the field? Oh right because they had to see it for a moment. You can say it's not the same thing all you want but it really is.

I think when part of the population goes ballistic over people not respecting a piece of literature about a nation and demands them to be fined, jailed, or hell even killed/hanged/lynched/etc. Is when the nation is probably going to shit and nationalism is about to raise its ugly head.

Except the whole controversy here is so-called "patriots" getting their panties in a twist about someone not standing for the national anthem. This absolutely would not be a controversy if nobody cared about the action itself. And just because legally the NFL can set rules like this, does not mean they should. What the NFL essentially is doing is blocking the players' political speech in favor of their own sanctioned political speech. If the NFL is going to be a non-political entity, they should either cut the anthem altogether or allow their players to express their differing views in a non-obtrusive way like they have been.

You're so close

... because it's inconvenient for them.

So the President has weighed in: (bolding as in the original) President Trump said in an interview that aired on Fox News this morning that “the NFL owners did the right thing” by altering the league’s national anthem policy. Football players will no longer be required to appear on the field when the anthem plays before games, but teams and the league will now be allowed to impose discipline for those who protest publicly during the song. “I don’t think people should be staying in the locker rooms, but still I think it’s good,” Trump said on “Fox & Friends.” “You have to stand proudly for the national anthem!” The president added that athletes who don’t stand “shouldn’t be playing.” “Maybe they shouldn’t be in the country,” he mused. Trump's patriotism is turning to jingoism and he's implying that the insufficiently-patriotic NFL players exercising free speech (a founding ethic of the nation and its society even if the First Amendment does not apply here) should be deported. That's not at all concerning. Oh and stupid chimed in. https://twitter.com/ap/status/999326966624014336 https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/999373635591856133?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

“Maybe they shouldn’t be in the country,” he mused. Hmm. What ever does he mean by this?

Funny how Republicans champion "freedom of speech" and peoples' right to say their opinions, until it's something they disagree with.

Lmao, is he planning on deporting people who weren't even born in a different country? Fuck this turd.

Peace in Korea - nope, fucked it up Peace with Iran - nope, fucked it up Immigration - still not solved, still no great wall Economy - rolling back regulations put in place after the great recession is good, right? Right? Mueller investigation - still going despite all his best efforts Environment - what's an environment, I don't see any environments around here, let's just ignore the environment Crime - school shootings now more common than snow days Stopping football players from kneeling to protest racism - WINNING!

Makes me wonder if he got that from Richard Spencer considering the racist "go back to your ~real~ home" rhetoric he spouts about.

https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/status/999599639996313600

Badmouthing Obama purely for being black and openly trying to bring religion into all aspects of society, working against the human rights of other people doesn't sound like pretending to care to me

Soo the president is starting to toy with the idea of exiling people for kneeling during the anthem or am I misunderstanding someone. Can one of the two trump supporters that haven't gotten themselves permabanned please come in and explain to me what Trump actually means.

I don't actually know if there are any trump supporters left

It ended as soon as the guys who founded the country made sure they were the ones on top of a slightly more fair hierarchy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiCaqA0ngRc

I don't understand how a national anthem can be seen as a political statement, it's like one of the things that helps bind a people no matter their views, race, or color.

Let me also add: I'm pretty disgusted with how Trump handled this whole issue. He should have kept out of it from the beginning.

I think the most ironic part is that the majority of the people i've heard here pissing their pants about it all are "SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN" , "civil war had nothing to do with slavery, black people should get over it." or "They are unpatriotic Americans and should be respectful!" are the same people getting upset that a person is protesting against injustice being done to them by an governing power. Where have I heard that before 🤔. http://img.picturequotes.com/2/621/620109/southern-rebel-quote-1-picture-quote-1.jpg hmm https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/658337244588175360/heIp74ew_400x400.jpg 🤔. . . . nope cant think of it at the moment.

I have no idea what point you're trying to make or who it's directed at.

Funnily enough, while Trump's not wholly responsible for forced patriotism (he just relatively got into legit politics after all), the more pervasive and caricature part of the issue is just about as old as he is. It's sadly not very surprising that a silver spoon weirdo would be so in line with these concepts when he grew up literally when they began to reach their apex of insanity. Trump grew up amidst McCarthyism and I'm not sure he ever got past it.

Lets be honest here. The act of protest you're describing as a highly disruptive form of protest that is inconvenient for other people Is kneeling. I believe this is a courteous way to do a silent protest, you do not. That's fine, but a lot of your perspective on this is based in what I could only call a dishonest bias.

What? My argument has never been that they shouldn't do it because it inconveniences people.

At least when the NFL dissolves we might get a cool sport to replace it.

How is the national anthem political? It's the least divisive song. It represents everybody in the United States, not the government, police, Republicans, Democrats, etc. The anthem becomes political when you make it, which is what the players are doing by protesting it. They are there to play a game and entertain, not to use their platform to make political statements. I am one of the biggest constitutionalists out there but your rights are limited in environments where it can make things less productive such as work or school. The players are an employee and should be treated like one. Before the post is crapetbombed with boxes, someone simply explain how the song is political in any way, shape or form.

An anthem or a flag is political in that it inherently symbolizes the political status quo. That's why people who are upset with the current administration, even if they're otherwise pro-America, may do things like flag burning as a form of public protest. It's a way of symbolizing 'The nation that this symbol represents is not one that I can currently identify with'. So when it comes to the anthem, someone taking a knee rather than standing for it is expressing a disagreement with the course of the nation represented by that anthem. And in that context, choosing to stand for the anthem becomes an equally symbolic act. The anthem represents America. How people react to the anthem is a direct metaphor for their political stance on America as a whole. I'd also point out that the inclusion of the anthem while the players are on the field was introduced specifically as a political measure- the NFL has long fostered a brand based around abject patriotism. Having players stand for the anthem was deliberately done as part of a marketing strategy to bill the NFL as the most patriotic of the organized sports leagues. Maybe you can make the argument that the anthem itself is apolitical, but the inclusion of the anthem in a sporting event absolutely is political in nature.

Holy fuck you are that dense.....

Since when does it symbolize the status quo? There is literally no way you could interpret the lyrics to be that way. It represents everyone in the country from white, black, Mexican, Asian, rich, poor, gay, straight, etc. and that's what is beautiful about it. It represents all the people of this country not fans of the current administration, or pro police or anything. It's the most inclusive song out there. Why has the anthem become associated with "redneck Trump-loving meatheads" all of the sudden? Sure, the song is very patriotic but patriotic != political, nor does it represent the current administration. There seems to be a misconception out there that to love your country you have to love the government which is completely false.

Except not really, context matters. The context of a song that is a nation's national anthem represents the nation as a whole. Taking a knee is showing displeasure with the nation. Patriotism is inherently political especially when you have a president/people who are claiming anyone who disagrees is not a true patriot/american. Having the balls to stand up against the government is what made america patriotic, not all the fanfare and blind nationalism that this current administration and leading party perpetuate. Like said before, the only people who have been screaming about it being disrespectful are the "redneck trump-loving meatheads". Before trump opened his mouth to talk down to kap, they didn't give a shit, but suddenly they all went rabid when dear lord trump pointed a target at him. My post earlier with the rebel shit was pointing out the irony of a whole group of people who gladly say they are southern rebels are screaming at a fellow rebel. Kap doesn't hate this country, he hates the power that runs it, which he shows by taking the knee during the anthem.