Elon Musk attacks media 'lies', vows to launch journalist-rating site - Sensationalist Headlines

Actually he said "Pravda", I have no idea if this is a coincidence but in my language it means Justice. Think it means Truth in Czech.

How does he expect to """fact-check""" people calling him on his shit when he can't even get an economy car built at an acceptable pricepoint or at the very least get it out the door able to brake at least as well or better than a ford taurus from the year 2000 ???

Anal Muck has won the internet once again!!!!!! Give him an epic E-Cookie!!!

Or what if you're belief of theses talking points lends credence to his intent to call out media misinformation?

I don't think letting the public vote on the quality of news will end well. Social media has demonstrated just how greatly the concept of reality itself is threatened by poor practices in processing an overabundance of information. There's always gonna be a black box factor that would lead an otherwise reasonable person to believe in and propagate complete and utter horseshit. I believe Media Bias Check is about the best we can do currently, though I'm not very well-versed on their internal workings. Fuck Sinclair Broadcast Group and all of Rupert Murdoch's media companies, though. They're better off being dust.

what misinformation am I speaking? The High Performance, High Quality Y2K Ford Taurus: http://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/2000_ford_taurusprogram_1908 128 Feet. The Tesla Model 3, pride of the Musky Man's fleet: Tesla Model 3 Review Falls Short of Consumer Reports Recommendat.. 152 Feet. (leaps and bound worse than a full-size pickup!) It being able to be fixed by a firmware update is irrelevant considering if you can't get a car off the assembly line, one that's supposed to show you can make it as a company shipping a decent amount of quality cars, to brake properly you're a sub-par automobile manufacturer.

Model 3s are coming off the assembly line, and the CR braking test did not correlate with other independent tests. They're going to retest it. What I meant is that how could you be certain you're being told truths and musk is wrong vs being told misinformation and musk being right? How certain are you that the media is being honest about their Tesla reporting amid bowing to advertisers and smear from short sellers among other modivations. Media accountability is an issue but idk if Musks ranking idea will work well.

Wasn't Pravda the name of the USSR's official propaganda paper? In Russian it means Truth as well.

It's shitty and dangerous for any billionaire to define a public service like the news.

Treating workers like garbage and getting away with it means you're succeeding at being a businessman.

The entire concept of equating a specific source as truth or falsehood is dangerous. We might be able to have a higher or lower starting assumption of truth based on past practices, but in the end, every article and every claim stands on its own.

Would it really change anything, though? For example, if people don't like what one of the rating sites says about news articles, they will just decry it as biased and part of the "enemy". This already happens with Snopes or Media Bias/Fact Check, see Trump supporters. Moreover, the problem is that creators of fake news don't care that their article is refuted somewhere. The initial impression is already out there, and fewer people are going to read the refutation. Headlines are the most important piece of a news article after all.

Musk is going to rebrand this site so hard as soon as senators hear about this. "Lets name our company that rates news and trustworthiness after the FUCKING STATE NEWSPAPER OF THE SOVIET BLOC" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pravda

There needs to be some sort of system that forces journalists to back up everything they're publishing, with hard facts, until there is no shadow of a doubt that the journalist is speaking the truth. I just don't know if this is the way to do it.

we needed a proper media rating system for a long time might as well try it now.

The more I think about it, the more I think this is a big joke ahead of the release of his Onion-like satire site. Which I'm assuming is named Pravda. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/999424262925533184?s=19

Where Morgen when you need him? I like to know his opinion since he's so pro Elon

At the same time though, if the more publicly available 'tools' like this, the better. Because if say only 1 of them existed, it could be bribed, no? If there are more, you can cross reference a source against all of them.

Musks fanbase is almost cult-like at times.

wee bit late for that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWLjYJ4BzvI

so basically yelp but with journalists. wow sounds great elon really brilliant idea

If he made it focus on articles from journalists and editors touching upon his own business' I can't see the problem. As CEO he can easily make relevant documents available in response to bad or biased reporting to present whole truths in response to half truths. Taking on the entire newsmachine might be a bit much though

I think if he's serious then he needs someway of stopping it from just becoming an echo chamber, or being abused by russian trolls and such.

I give it 5 minutes before it gets raided to hell by everyone and anyone with an agenda on the internet

Wasn't Pravada the name of a newspaper Stalin took over during the Terror

https://twitter.com/chetfaliszek/status/999702684218212352

Is anybody else bothered by the leading question in that poll?

I mean, That and, Snopes has been around for 24 years, I'm more likely to trust a site that has a history of fact checking than say, a site that was recently created as a reaction to one guy not liking what he's hearing in the media.

Problem is that he can't make an open poll. The truth might not be peoples interest. Take nuclear power. The coal-companies lobbied everyone in Denmark to fear nuclear power to a point we banned it in 1985. No matter how many facts I give to my dad about nuclear power .. he keeps his bias opinion that a nuclear powerplant is the same as a nuclear bomb. Mob-mentality isn't the right way and I hope that he will employee an expert panel to give their input.

I think the whole point of the public voting on what is deemed "reputable" is less of a "look, you should trust these things" but more of a real-time indication of both what sources people are listening to and how the public perceives them. Not a contest, but data rather. This would cause news sites and co to go "oh shit maybe the public isn't actually trusting us, we should do something". I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with it, unless musk goes "This is our one and only source, fuck politifact" in which it then becomes very questionable