• Lawns are an ecological disaster
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I'm a big fan of hardscapes, stonecrops, xeriscaping. Monoculture grass lawns are boring and uninspired. Why aren't diverse lawns of things like wild strawberry more popular? Your front yard looks fucking awesome, great work. Have any photos of it through the seasons? Bet it takes less work overall considering most landscaping involves fragile non-natives.
My lawn is just a mass of weeds and as long as it's mowed it looks good, you can hardly tell its not a normal lawn, and it never turns brown. Well, it recently turned brown, which led us to realize the sprinklers have been broken for nearly a month in summer (and now it's back to being green since we fixed the sprinklers). Monoculture lawns are abominations.
One study found that in urban areas, weeds were the most popular food sources for pollinators. Weeds and native plants are especially helpful for native pollinators—which contribute, even by the most conservative estimates, $3.44 billion dollars to our economy, and which are vastly more threatened than honeybees. A study conducted in southeastern Pennsylvania found that native plants also increased butterfly and bird populations in urban areas by around four and eightfold, respectively. Interesting
It's like that here too, but mainly to prevent planting new water-hungry plants. In my experience, anything that you request will get accepted unless it'd be ecologically hazardous to do so.
Our yard spans at least 2 acres of relatively hilly land, so astroturfing will be expensive as frig. We used to joke about paving our front and back yards and just painting it green.
Yes https://www.google.com/amp/amp.kansascity.com/news/state/missouri/article207665734.html
not to mention that mowing grass in general is a completely idiotic and artificial activity that does nothing but kill time on something that will grow back in literally 4 days under certain conditions. If I were to purchase property it would have zero lawn on it or anything that requires any sort of regular maintenance that is not ultra basic trimming.
They already have: 1 - stop watering your lawn 2 - use a manual push mower as opposed to a petrol mower 3 - stop using chemicals and fertilisers all of the time 4 - use a type of grass which is slow growing I mean I’ll admit that I’ve used weed-n-feed several times over the past few years, but I myself have already been following all of those other points for years, and I’ve stopped using weed-n-feed especially when I found out that bees like to visit every now and then.
Yeah it barely requires any maintenance whatsoever, the plants grow pretty slowly and they're not really sculpted anyway. I'll see if I can get some pics. This is my family house, btw. I helped with the back yard more than the front.
I live in Evanston, so I see a whole lot of lawn gore. Landscapers are paid hundreds to mow down any grass that grows longer than a few inches, then it all dies out and is turned to mud over the winter, then they're paid again to set down new grass from scratch. I see rich yuppy families paying to have whole fully-grown gardens just transplanted into the barren dirtpiles surrounding their houses, and they leave them for the summers. My local university's president spent thousands from the school's budget paying workmen to go around to the (imported) trees on his property and brush all the spiders off with dusters. Wasteful gardening makes me piss blood, and sweet baby jesus do I see a lot of it.
have you considered asking permission from the city
My 'lawn' consists of moss and tiles. I guess I am saving the Earth, one step at a time I feel like we have a hank hill lawn situation with some people
The point was probably that it's bullshit that he needs permission in the first place.
I forgot to mention that asking the city permission to do anything costs a fee.
Man reading all this, I'm glad I live in an area where all that happens is grass grows in the yard and you have to cut it every two weeks or so.
Not really. HOAs are one thing, city guidelines are another and typically are way, way more lenient and aimed more at ecological preservation than making your yard look pristine and identical.
I wasn't saying I agree.
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it's mostly aging neighborhoods, not wealthy neighborhoods. I get complaints occasionally because the next youngest homeowner on my street is 70 years old, and they've all forgotten what having a job means for yard maintenance.
I always thought that was the case, glad I don't have one. My "lawn" is literally just a bunch of dirt and whatever feels like growing in there, since my house is just a cabin I plopped down in a clearing in the forest on my family's land. Even if I decided to turn it into a lawn it would look weird as hell because you'd have forest, forest, forest then boom, random ass lawn grass. I always found lawns in many suburbs to look fairly unnatural, anyway.
Yeah. We live in a neighborhood without one and were always pretty grateful for it. Now I can kind of see the point of one that's reasonable and that doesn't come and measure your grass height down to the millimeter. Unfortunately, both my neighbors who used to maintain their house and yards moved out and were replaced by absolute slobs. One lady is pretty old and sick so she sorta gets a pass, us and the neighbors on the other side of her do our best to help her out when stuff starts getting really out of control as far as grass and etc gets. Other one is the whitiest of trash and has like, two trucks, two motor cycles, an ATV or two, a couple trailers and boats, his broken down work van, his OTHER broke down work van, his and his wife's personal vehicle, a bunch of his kids toys, shit like that out in the front, among dozens of other things. His backyard is an actual garbage heap. Used tires, trash bags, fallen tree branches, a dozen half done projects and their materials just thrown about, more kids stuff, busted up pool, etc. They're nice people, but put zero effort into keeping their property decent. It sucks, the last family that lived there worked hard as hell keeping it clean and presentable since it was their first home, to the point we were happy to help cut the grass for them and etc. when he was working long shifts or deployed and we saw his wife was 8 months pregnant while riding the mower. I'm still surprised she didn't shake her twins out on it. We've lived here a while, so it just kinda sucks to see a neighborhood you know can look really good get a little shittier because someone doesn't want to put in effort. I'm almost to the point where I would want a full-time facebook posting wine-mom to be the HOA gestapo.
This is why more natural yards are a lot better. Wayyyyy less maintenance. TBH we should be pretty harsh about people leaving tons of trash everywhere. It's simply dangerous, for a lot of reasons.
There's probably a good chance they could be violating some city ordinances on trash in yards, if my town is any measure to go by. My city also says that it's illegal to park your vehicles on your lawn or in your backyard unless it's a legitimate driveway. Yours may have similar laws that just go unnoticed/unenforced, but slipping a remark to someone in your city hall's housing department could get the ball rolling to get them to clean it up. However I wouldn't want to pull that trigger unless what they are doing to their property is legitimately devaluing your own home.
I doubt it's really harming property values too much, if it is, it's being offset by having a decently large piece of property in a really, really desirable location. Honestly it's not really worth bringing it up since it doesn't harm us, it just kinda annoying to see something that used to be well-kept become such a mess. Plus we keep my father and I's project cars under covers in the backyard behind the garage, so I wouldn't wanna have a deputy come by and ding us for something as well.
you cant grow vegetables in us of a anyway can you its illegal? something to do with taking profit away from vegetable manufacturers
Uh Which subreddit did you hear this on friend and why did you believe it?
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No that's Australia ya nit.
My lawn is an amalgamation of grass, weeds, and clover, which means we get plenty of bunnies and deer trotting about in it and munching on stuff. I like bunnies and deer.
yo what the fuck
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