Distracted driver destroys family's treasured 1931 Ford Model A - Sensationalist Headlines

I ride a scooter and tbh I feel everyone should ride one to start off with. I've had bloody utes try and bully their way past me and jesus it's a cause for concern

No, but you can do the best that you can. And to declare that a historic automobile is "just an object" which only has value because they fixed it is not correct.

Can you explain your reasoning behind this

So this genius decided that they would try and run away on foot, leaving their car behind? Like, as though they might get away with it? As though nobody's going to be able to figure out who you are when you left behind your car? Did she run off with the license plates and everything in the glovebox too? Yeah no, this is bullshit. The general populace finds distracted and drunken driving to be just as awful as you do. Just because someone isn't into cars doesn't mean they're irresponsible on the road. Your hobby doesn't make you special and doesn't make the rest of the world inferior. Ditch the elitist mindset, it only makes you seem like a jerk.

You don't believe historicity has value?

Can you explain why it does? Furthermore why this car does?

No I can't, I've never had to before and I don't know what words to use to explain it to someone who doesn't get it.

Have you considered that you might arbitrarily place value in it without a real motivation at all? The history's still there, but an object's an object. Especially something like a factory-produced car. Granted, it's an exceptional piece of craftsmanship- a beautiful example of American automotive history. It's also a car that was left on the side of the road. We've got other model A's in museums, where they won't be totaled.

Please, the general populace yells at you if you don't look at your phone while driving. So many times I've had people try and text me, then when I don't reply until I get to where I was going, they get pissy and complain and say that their text was definitely so important I should've risked the lives of everyone else on the road to reply to it instantly.

This is not a good way to think and I'm not in a state of mind to explain why. Please do not put yourself in a position of responsibility over any antiquities.

If I had a car like that I wouldn't have the balls to drive it anywhere. This is tragic, but stories like these teach me that sometimes you just have to think for the stupid people. If you have something this valuable outside you are trusting that idiots aren't gonna find some way to fuck it up. Deny stupid people the opportunity to fuck your shit up, by locking it up, or driving something else. I'm not blaming him in any way, but when I see stuff like this happen, it gets me a little paranoid. My cousin lost his life to a distracted driver, I've been hit by a distracted driver, and my mom has a history of relatives getting killed by distracted drivers(she thinks bikes and motorcycles are a bad omen). I know these things are unavoidable, someone at sometime/someplace is gonna end up taking something from you, the best you can do is try to make them take something you can easily replace.

"My friends are assholes, therefore everyone who's not into my hobby is an asshole" ??? Get better friends.

Those are just idiots. Not every day A to B drivers. I don't give a singular fuck about cars. I drive a 12 year old Focus with a failing transmission and all I use it for is to just get around. It's all I need a box with wheels for. It's not my dream car. I don't even have a dream car. And look at me, I pretend my phone doesn't even exist when I'm behind the wheel, I make all passengers buckle up, and I practice safe driving and even volunteered for additional driving lessons to handle emergency situations properly, and guess what? I am not a car enthusiast. And I know many, many others who are just like me. Being a car enthusiast does not make a damn bit of difference to someone's intelligence and awareness. There's plenty of "enthusiasts" who text and drive and act just as idiotically as dumb people who only have their subpar, average everyday car. And there's plenty of the opposite end who are some of the safest drivers on the road despite putting along in their rusty, faded out Corolla.

Sorry you can't explain why I've got the wrong thoughts.

I think I already made it clear that I accept the fault for not being able to articulate myself at this time but thanks for the weird gotcha.

Unless you were concerned I would acquire an antique and destroy it before you could collect yourself?

I'd probably end up in jail, because i'd be beating the shit out of that person in a blind rage, but i'd probably never get the chance to own such a peice of history...

It's 👏 a 👏 car 👏

I'm deeply concerned by the increasingly prevalent attitude that historicity means nothing and it's OK to destroy antiques because fugget you can fix it or it's obsolete or whatever the justification is. Again I'm not really in the mood to write an essay about why history has meaning and preservation is important. You can continue arguing with me all you want but you're just going to keep getting the same kind of response. I hope some day you can find your way down from the soapbox.

No, It's money, and time, a lot of it.

If you're so deeply concerned it shouldn't take more than a sentence or two to describe this intrinsic value. I didn't even say it's OK to destroy antiques, just that you shouldn't cry over spilled milk and that you shouldn't be upset about stuff you can't change. What prevalent attitude by the way? Have any examples of antiques being destroyed? Only examples I can think of in recent memory in the U.S. are confederate statues, a few guns, and property that was being repurposed for municipal use.

Our past conversations on this topic amount to you adamantly claiming the sky isn't blue and pointing the finger at me for failing to convince you of widely accepted norms regarding the color of the sky. It's not my fault you are a contrarian

suing the driver won't get him anywhere but he can still sue the insurance company if they're not willing to pay out

I agree that getting hung up on material possessions to the point that you let them define you or how you act is not a way to be, and it's better to just move on if something like this happens as it is in fact just an object in the grand scheme of things, but Model A's are very much historic, and something doesn't have to have intrinsic value to still be valuable. It's a value we ascribe to it based off history, scarcity and generally how fuckin' cool it is. Scarcity, however, is probably the biggest deal with these things, and every destroyed Model A part is one less part in the world, so if we just decide "Oh there are Model A's in museums, just do whatever with all the rest", eventually most of the remaining ones will be in museums and probably won't run. That may not be significant to you, but it is significant to quite a few people, regardless of intrinsic value, and that's all that really matters.

SKS you're being remarkably dim. We're all fully aware that in the grand scheme of things that "it's just a car" and "it's just an object" and that the lives of the people driving it are worth more. That doesn't change the fact that it has intrinsic value to people. The "it's just a car" mindset, while understandable, is just narrow minded. We aren't talking about a fuckin dime-a-dozen Toyota Corolla here, this is a (now) rare car that a father and son worked countless hours on to restore. You can't just walk into a shop and buy new OEM parts for this car anymore you know. "This car isn't historical" what a load. I guess we're all blind and there are hundreds of thousands of mint Model A's driving around!

is there a reason you feel the need to be so pointlessly contrarian?

Pointlessly contrarian? They said they wanted to beat someone until they were in prison. You can buy a model A for 20k or less. 1929 Ford Model A for sale near Anaheim, California 92806 Furthermore... yes. You're actually flat wrong. Ford produced 4.7 million model A's. Here's a thread where people are talking about these cars. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27442&showall=1 Woah oops looks like you don't know what you're talking about at all.

there's somewhere around 150,000 real ones left worldwide by the last estimate I saw. it's impossible to get an exact figure because most on the road today are reproductions. this was an original model A, not a reproduction.

Maybe don't take your priceless artifact on the road where idiots/tired people/drunks are is a good lesson to be learned from this.

I wasn't talking about how many were made back then ya doink. I was obviously talking about how many still exist NOW. Just because they made 4.7 million of them doesn't mean they all survived, because that's what you're implying with you "gotcha!"