'Solo: A Star Wars Story' opening weekend is a disaster, might not turn a profit
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It's also super obvious that it switched directors. Like from a certain point onwards the movie actually gets entertaining, while the beginning is... weird. Like, really weird and feels like all the bad aspects of the prequels, like over-explaining everything
It doesn't help that they're not particularly good movies either. Disney is like 1 for 4 at this point with these Star Wars movies, but they keep making billions so they'll keep releasing them every year.
Quite honestly, I had no idea there was even going to be a Solo movie until a couple months ago. The only reason I even know about there being one was due to someone posting a news article about the movie being in development hell. I follow the Star Wars account on facebook and they were absolutly quiet about it since they were still riding the hype waves of ep. 8.
Which is kind of a shame because I saw the trailers and ended up going "It...Doesn't look bad?"
I loved The Last Jedi and since I didn't really "grow up" with Star Wars and a lot of it is still new to me, I still love the universe and I love new movies and new content for me to enjoy now that I'm really into it, but man I wasn't interested in Solo from the beginning and I'm not entirely sure why. It just seemed formulaic and bland and I felt the same way when I saw Rogue One. Like they seemed a little pointless?
I think I'd rather have more things that expand on the actual universe and other aspects of the lore rather than bringing back characters that have already kind of had their chance for a story. Give me new characters that are cool to fall in love with rather than changing certain aspects of already grandfathered characters!
Well the last two movies performed under box office expectations, so their gonna have to change it up if they want more billions from Star Wars.
Its in interesting condrum because they need to take risks cause you can't keep selling Star Wars on nostalgia, but Disney is risk averse as its driven by stock price.
For real, I would love a legit grim-dark Star Wars. A proper one, not fake pussy grim-dark like fucking Batbro Vs Superdude.
What would that movie even look like? What is it that makes a movie "very Star Wars" without including any of the main icons of Star Wars?
Maybe it would be unrealistic to have it be totally devoid of that, but even still, I wish they'd try something that doesn't include "Jedi VS Sith", "Empire VS Rebels" and that's it. Force users are always a big focus at this point.
The old republic did a good job of being its own unique and original Star Wars story, secluded from everything else. It did Sith VS Jedi the best too, but I've not played it in forever.
I am disinterested in any more Star Wars films after the Last Jedi to be honest.
It would be more Not-Star Trek than Star Wars without anything about Jedi or the Force, tbh.
Unless it was about Boba Fett building himself a reputation in the underworld during his early years and contracted by the Empire to hunt down fugitive Jedi. All we know about him officially(movie-wise) is that he saw his dad get killed by Jedi and then we see him working for Vader years later.
https://twitter.com/RealRonHoward/status/1000798455206309893
At least Ron Howard doesn't seem to be upset about it.
What did you expect, though. Not saying this case is similar, but I remember Paul Feig saying something very similar after Ghostbusters came out. The director of a movie isn't gonna say it's a catastrophe a couple of days in.
DS9 was a show that did a good job of mixing things up
Star Trek was very much only "Lets explore and find shit" at that point, while DS9 took it and ran with it in a really amazing way. It still had the federation but it wasn't overwhelming, it kept itself distant in a way that made it fresh and let it explore that series in a more character driven way than before.
Star Wars has been all about the hero's journey, the empire, the clone wars, and the sith (in some form). It's not had its DS9 moment. Of course, it shouldn't have a Star Trek style or DS9 style movie, that'd actually be kinda lame.
>.< there's been 3 solid weeks of blockbusters, 2 of them from disney, its also a holiday AND next weekend they have a major pixar movie coming out. i'll get around to it soon but not this weekend
forget disney movies go play KOTOR I & II. if you're just getting into starwars and have any interest in gaming those games are the bees knees for storytelling about the universe
I've watched every new Star Wars movie and i just can't understand why people like them, no matter how many times people have tricked me into seeing them they come off as the most shallow attempts at cashing in on an old franchise with some of the most disconnected storytelling I've seen in years. They're a complete joke with what you actually could've done with the franchise, Knights of the Old Republic is a prime example of what could've been. The focus on poorly fleshing out a bunch of classic characters that had absolutely no need for more padding, every scene exists as a way of introducing these completely pointless family tree scenarios where a recognizable character gets a cameo scene just for the sake of having one.
The reuse of old material and settings for the sake of having the viewer feel nostalgia, things like including atleast one cute robot or animal each movie to sell toys. Adding characters with specific ethnicities just to appeal to the market in Japan. Should not be the kind of decisions that should influence your movie in such a large way.
There's absolutely no point in the movies where i feel like sympathy for any of the characters and I'm absolutely baffled people are connecting to any of the actors delivering exposition.
I would be so happy if this movie didn't sell well, but who am i kidding. It's got the Star Wars brand on it.
I wasn't a fan either, but just to clarify that was 100% Benecio Del Toro not an imitation
I really enjoyed this movie, it was a dumb fun space western
The period of spinoffs and side stories set in The Clone Wars era was almost nothing but solid gold, with an even mix between whimsical fun space adventure stories and grim tactical war
stories. It was a period where you could have Genndy's Clone Wars high-flying action series AND the 3DCG fun character-driven Clone Wars series AND the clone-focused war-horror stories of Battlefront 2 and Republic Commando. And you could very, very easily do that in the New Civil War era, but Disney has absolutely no interest in pushing a gritty story that isn't also weighed
down by funny moments and over-the-top coolguy characters. After seeing the committee-spawned mood whiplash of Rogue One and Episode VIII, I wouldn't trust anyone working with the
Star Wars franchise to be able to play out a grounded, serious story.
Make Kyle Katarn canon and do a movie based around him and my Star Wars fatigue would vanish.
Star Wars is too bland and predictable now; it's not exciting anymore, the video games have repeatedly dropped the ball lately and Disney managed to make 2 bland and 2 meh movies this whole time they had the IP. I'm just seeing Star Wars and my brain instinctively thinks "meh don't care" which would have been unthinkable back when I was a kid and the prequels were recent. Even though the prequels were kind of a mess they were entertaining and actually had a unique story while the recent stuff seems soulless.
Their content isn't hooking me anymore. I grew up with the prequels and later went back to the original trilogy but these new films almost feel like fan fiction. I never saw TLJ because I figured it'd be boring and basically plot-less like TFA was, Rogue One and Solo were decent at least. Disney banks too hard on nostalgia, that can't carry a series and wears off after the first novel experience in a while. I think they're missing why Star Wars was novel and amazing and are just trying to make facsimiles of the originals.
Kotor is the quintessential star wars series in all honesty
Jedi knight too
"Legends" Fett had a pretty rich story post return of the Jedi, and is quite possibly one of the most popular characters to come out of Star Wars with the minuscule amount of screen time he received.
A well made Fett movie would be plenty welcome in my opinion.
I don't know how you can call TLJ bland and predictable, if anything it's taken heat for being too, different to what fans expected
Considering he was a pinch hitter on the project and it sounds like it's the most any of his films have opened with in a weekend, then yeah, it's still something to be pleased about. Besides, even if it tanks, it's not gonna kill his career, so he's really got nothing to worry about. At the worst, he's never gonna make another Star Wars movie.
yay.
let it die.
We could have had 1313 to mix up Star Wars.
I feel like Disney's Star Wars needs an Iron Man moment. They need one big solid hit, maybe a charismatic new star, that grooves with the mainstream audience again, and that they can build from in an interconnected manner. I've seen people actually excited about Maul's return in Solo as a hint for something bigger connecting things going forward, but I actually kinda doubt they're planning anything like that other than random references to Clone Wars and Rebels, etc, that the story group throws in. Maybe they just need one figure like Feige to decide where things are going and to direct traffic.
Personally, I thought Solo was all right, but I think I would've been a lot more interested if it was all new characters and not a retread of things we already knew. I don't know how you sell that to the mainstream audience, though, other than "Star Wars!" At this point, I guess they need to be able to point to how things are still connected to the originals to justify the risk. Maybe they should get on some X-Wing movies, then.
DS9 had its DS9 moment because b5 kicked their ass five ways from sunday in ratings and in writing. There is no directly competing format for Star Wars that Disney can copy so
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Kind of amazing how blind to fatigue Disney is.
Remember kids; insulation kills. Kills your heroes, kills your legends, kills your stories and kills your creators.
The best part is Disney will be completely oblivious and all sadface as to why things went south when they poured biblical amounts of money, logistical might and talent into this and the gnawed so clean they glow bones of Marvel, when this is exactly what they did in the 90s, and it had exactly the same effect on the entire Disney brand then as well.
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I agree, but that's pretty much why I like the idea of Boba Fett starring in particular. I doubt anything completely unconnected is ever going to be done with Star Wars in theatres. They only seem interested in something if it's swamped in brand recognition.
With Mr Fett, His backstory has already been pretty thoroughly explored for a guy with little to no character in the original movies, making anything new he features in less likely to re-tread old ground, and yet that same lack of established character means lots of opportunity to do something new without deviating too far from a safe, iconic, star wars character.
If any character was going to get a standalone movie I'd want it to be the bounty hunter helmet man with every reason to fuck off into the unknown and start earning credits doing shit with 0 relevance to the plot lines that we are all getting sick of by now.
I only started seeing ads for it on TV here the other day, and they're like 5 second cuts of the falcon and the release date, that's it.
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