• YouTube deletes a large number of videos at the UK's behest
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As I've said a couple of times before in this thread, if it was just some guys who killed a 14 year old filming a video talking shit on him and calling him a pussy and saying they're glad they killed him, would be saying the same thing? The rappers that make these specific videos are overwhelmingly despised within the scene. And like I said, out of thousands and thousands of videos from this scene, 30 have been taken down. This is because the other content, while violent, is not actively celebrating real murders that happened
You think its ok for someone to go out and stab soemone else and then make a song celebrating the fact that you did so?
No, I think it's tasteless and stupid, like 99% of music I've heard from the grime scene, but if they want to publish material that can be used in court to support a case convicting them of murder, more power to them. The person's already dead, let the idiots make their music and let the courts hear it, a song where you boast about murdering someone is sure to go a long way to convince the jury/court you didn't outright kill someone in cold blood..
I mean personally I don't support it, but from the police perspective I can see that it ultimately has some very minor technical differences from a video that a terrorist group or militia might put up after an attack claiming responsibility, so in the same way they would take those down they take them down here. You can't really take legal action against the people in these videos unless they're really dumb. Most of the time they take some steps - wearing a balaclava/mask, using a pseudonym, and having a 'the lyrics in this piece of art are entirely fictional and not representative etc etc' card at the start of the video - which ultimately mean there's no way to legally tie the person to the crime. I agree with you that the issues with the gang wars going on in London at the moment are far more severe than any video - in order to fix these problems public schools need better funding, youth centers need to be re-opened, and the police need better funding to put more local police in rotation in order to develop positive community relations - I was only commenting to clear up the confusion that this is some moralising 'little Timothy's gonna do an acid attack' fear campaign. This is a real issue that is tearing inner city London Boroughs apart
Next up on UK's schedule, videogames: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26y9H2ZLf0w
When China sees online content they don't like, they block it so that nobody in China can view it. When UK sees online content they don't like, they try to make it so that nobody on Earth can view it.
If the songs are literally just taunting another gang into retaliating to a real stabbing then fuck them, Youtube shouldn't be giving a platform to people who are just trying to incite violence.
I don't know anything about this particular situation but didn't we just bust a fuckton of murder cases recently that revolved around call-out videos spread through Instagram? I mean I'm not going to pretend like the police are usually bringing high-quality detective work to the table when it comes to shit online but why make so many assumptions about it before all the facts are on the table?
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