No it isn't. You can empathize with someone or something, but then go, "That doesn't override the horrible person they were." Empathy is not an overriding signal that takes away everything else. You can be perfectly empathetic and at the end of the day be fine with someone who did terrible things to others being dead.
Idk about the guy you're responding to but yeah I'm pretty unempathic for this guy.
No one deserves to get gunned down in the street but I'll be damned if I'm gonna pretend like he didn't have a whole lot of karma coming his way.
idk apparently the dude was trying to turn his life around after having made some incredibly gruesome mistakes in the past
http://thesource.com/2017/12/25/xxxtentacion-donate-20k-foster-home/
XXXTentacion Donates Musical Instruments And PS4s To Foster Home..
after seeing how idiots responded to totalbiscuit's death, i try not to judge a dead person based on the bad things they've done if they have shown serious attempts at turning things around. bad things always overshadow the good so if the guy did even more good than this, i wouldnt be surprised if not a lot of ppl knew about it.
if you don't want people to think your "un-empathetic" try not posting "good riddance" when someone dies???
there's a difference between not caring and saying good riddance imo
Did you just jump in for a one-off comment or did you actually read what this person was saying?
This dude has zero empathy whatsoever.
I don't know where you get the idea that you can be happy that a person is dead but also be empathetic with that person. That actually makes zero sense lmao
At best you can put on the facade that you're "empathetic" to deflect the shit thrown at you for being a tactless scumbag, but at that point you might as well own up to it.
Calling yourself "empathetic" with no substance behind it is little more than a lie at that point.
I read the thread, yes. Empathy is informative, it gives insight in to what someone is feeling or experiencing. But it does not determine how someone will react or behave in response to that. It simply says, "This is their experience." as best it can. That is all.
https://i.imgur.com/a5cHijG.png
Hold on, I'll even highlight the important part for you
the ability to understand and share the feelings of another
This guy (and many others in the thread) have zero intent of understanding what XXXTentacion was going through or what he was trying to do with his life
Your understanding of empathy is completely wrong on a fundamental level
Not at all, Webster. I described it before you googled it. You just seem to miss that it will not overrule other behavior or thought on its own, it just informs the individual along with every other source of information. One of many sources.
Having empathy can include having the understanding that there are many factors that go into decision making and cognitive thought processes. Past experiences have an influence on the decision making of today. Understanding this allows a person to have empathy for individuals who sometimes make illogical decisions to a problem that most individuals would respond with an obvious response. Broken homes, childhood trauma, lack of parenting and many others factors can influence the connections in the brain which a person uses to make decisions in the future
i don't know how to make quotes
I'm not even sure how to respond to you anymore. You're so blatantly off that it's hard to find a point to even begin.
Empathy is so much more complex and has so much more depth than what you are attempting to break it down to.
If you had an inkling of understanding of it then you'd also realize that. You'd also realize that the individuals I've talked about completely lack any empathy for XXXTentacion as well.
Try putting yourself into other people's shoes and understanding their life from their own point of view.
Should I beat a pregnant women and gay bash to make sure I really get into his mind?
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but I gotta say that was a surreal headline to read. Sounded like something went wrong with a porno.
I've got a pretty strong understanding of empathy, hence why I have to keep correcting the mistake you keep making. You're assuming people aren't understanding. And what I'm saying is that they are understanding but that understanding is not changing the outcome. For example, I have a very good understanding of what makes many terrorists commit the atrocities they do. Typically it comes from the displacement from their homes and separation and destruction of their families, often times a loss of freedom and culture from outside interests influencing their society and trying to steer their lives. But at the same time many others, often friends and neighbors, experience the same troubles but never go to the extreme of killing innocent, uninvolved people. There is an understanding of their experience, but that doesn't mean I or many, many others feel remorse for the deaths of these people who commit these atrocities. When one dies it is a tragedy, when the other dies it is a relief.
That is the issue you're not understanding. It's not a vacuum. It's not empathy alone that makes these determinations.
i liked some of his music. sad to hear he's gone.
He slapped her and broke her iPhone 6S, because she had complimented a male friend on his new jewelry. (XXXTentacion later repaired the phone.) Later that day, XXXTentacion left the room
and returned with two grilling implements—a “barbecue pitchfork” and a “barbecue cleaner,” she said—and told her to pick between them, because he was going to put one of them in her
vagina. She chose the fork. He told her to undress. He was lightly dragging the tool against her inner thigh when she passed out. He did not penetrate her with it.
When asked during the deposition to “pinpoint the days he threatened to kill you,” the reported victim responded, “Well, when we lived in Orlando, it was literally like every day.”
About a week and a half into their stint in Orlando, the woman and XXXTentacion were on their way to a show together. They listened to one of XXXTentacion’s songs in the car and she sang
along with his verse. Then she hummed along with a verse from a featured artist on the track. After that, XXXTentacion fell silent and left her in the car outside the venue. Inside, they got into a
fight. When they arrived home after the show, he took her into the bathroom. “And he was asking me why I was singing his friend’s part of the song, if I like him, why do I like him, like do I ever
look at his Twitter,” she said.
Then, XXXTentacion head-butted her, punched her, stomped on her, and put her in the bathtub, where he continued hitting and kicking her. “He also wanted to cut out my tongue because I
was singing the song,” she said. She tried to run away down the street. He tackled her, causing her head to hit the pavement. She suffered black eyes, a lump on the back of her head, scratch
marks, and bruises, including a large bruise on her ankle where he stomped her.
Lots of controversy in this thread, and I don't necessarily think anyone deserves to get gunned down in the street.
But of all the people it could have happened to, this time it was one of the people most deserving.
Won't lose a wink of sleep or shed a single tear knowing this guy is dead.
This is the 3rd time Anthony fantano gave a not good rating to somebody's album then to have the artist die the same year. I'm actually shook.
Not gonna say he deserved it, but I sure as hell ain't gonna pretend to care. Plenty of people die in the hood every hour of every day, and it's horrible, it's tragic, but because this guy cut a few records I'm meant to have some kind of great, crushing sympathy and keen for him? Fuck no. Guy sounds like a complete piece of shit, and though I can't say him getting capped in the neck was beneficial for the whole world I'm not gonna weep over it.
He might be the next Zodiac killer, but instead of cryptic messages he posts negative reviews of peoples albums.
https://twitter.com/McDonaIdsDM/status/1008827282302164998
I haven't been following this story at all but this is one of the most bizarre twitter posts I've seen in a while.
I really want to know why the fuck we should have any empathy for XXX. That empathy should go towards his pregnant ex, the one he nearly beat to death, and was bullied off of social media because his fans, the same people going "oh have some respect!" bullied her and sent her threats. We should feel empathy for the gay man he beat up. We can even have empathy for XXX's family, because it's not their fault that he was an abusive, homophobic piece of shit.
But I have no reason to feel empathy for XXX. Why should I respect him, because he's dead? Because he was "trying to get his life around" and "made a mistake"? Plenty of young people make mistakes, but I don't know anyone who's mistakes were "beating up their girlfriend until she almost died." He. Was. An. Abuser. I don't care if he was 20, 18, 25, or even 45. He did not just one unforgivable thing, but many unforgivable things. Should someone have shot him? No. That doesn't mean that one can't be ambivalent or even happy that there's one less abuser in the world. The fact that we're putting more focus on one user for going "good riddance" than discussing the people XXX hurt, speaks wonders.
I feel so bad for victims of abuse right now, who have to go online and see people try to force everyone to grieve or honor someone who was a serial abuser. We have no right to control how people react to this man's death, and I think that beating a woman up is infinitely worse than just saying good riddance.
One less mumble rapper on this planet
It's always sad to me when someone dies for one reason or another, even if the people he hurt and abused are safer now. The fact that his death is preferable to his survival for anyone at all is depressing in itself.
I'll say it. Good riddance. We need less people like him in the world, straight up.
That doesn't mean I think it's right that he got gunned down. But I'm also not gonna pretend like it's a tragedy.
This is pretty clearly a parody account
not an official account.
It's almost like the amount of contradictions in your post makes it a living breathing oxymoron. Not at all supporting any of shit he did in the past, but with the amount of shaming in this thread just shows that rehabilitation is impossible. Even though once a capital punishment thread rolls around we all rush to say that "oh but they should get help so they can rejoin society!", yet here we are judging a dead man by his past mistakes. This line of thought is why it's impossible for a felony to get their life together after getting. We as a society decide it's better judge them by their criminal history and evil they did rather than the good they try to do. Considering that he was motorcycle shopping for the charity he was working with means nothing. Nothing in the hard eyes of the internet jury. Not really trying to be a dick but i just find this behavior incredibly disgusting. Acting like he meant nothing to no one gets you nothing.
Looks like social media might have lead to someone ratting themselves out
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Lmao great work creating a trail of breadcrumbs
I'm just gonna say we gotta stop calling his crimes "mistakes" abusing a partner is a purposeful malicious choice I don't give a single fuck how "troubled" you are.
X was a piece of shit who hated women and gays and while he shouldn't have been shot dead before facing judgement for his crimes I know most people won't exactly cry over him
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