I don't like it, and I've never heard of him before yesterday. But judging by what I've read, his death will improve the lives if his victims. They don't have to worry about him anymore.
Just one post earlier, you were crying about people using shit metaphors and now you pull this.
And you're saying we're the ones up our own asses?
wishing cancer on somebody over the internet is totally the same as being a violent homophobe racist and misogynist complete with near death beatings to gay people and pregnant women
If your definition of being up your own ass is not feeling particularly mournful at the death of such a disgusting excuse for a human being, then I don't know what to say. Besides maybe getting a new dictionary.
oh cool, you empathize with him because you're violent and ignorant too?
Makes some puzzle pieces fall into place, doesn't it?
sad what happened to him, no one deserves to go out like that.
also apparently everybody here is a "sociopath" if they didn't like X
not a good example tbh. Malcom X still kinda died as a violent thug but he was a pretty cool dude and a man of action
"Trust me guys i used to torture and beat my pregnant girlfriend nearly to death, he'll eventually learn it was wrong." :downs:
It helps no one to be reductive. Half of you are saying the other half is full of sociopaths because they're glad he was murdered, while the other half for the most part is simply saying they're indifferent to what they consider a POS getting murdered. There's a difference between being glad about something and being indifferent, and reducing viewpoints to a simple black and white just to make your own seem like the obvious viewpoint and the other "absolutely despicable" is disingenuous.
I get the point of being empathetic and sympathetic towards a person who has done some stupid shit in life and wants to genuinely fix themselves. I get that. That is completely fine and great if an individual wants to change themselves for the better. And completely realizes their faults and wants to do something to fix them as best as they possibly can.
Though, the reason why i wont be sympathetic or empathetic towards XXXtentacion is cause he never even apologized, or even pointed out his faults. He tortured and beat his own pregnant girlfriend almost to death. Even then you got to go a LONG WAY to fucking gain my "Sympathy" for that fuck up. What made it even worse is that he bragged about this behavior and induldged on it. Which is probably why he got shot. Cause he thought he was "Invincible" to the law and against other rap artists.
Seems dumb to bring up a fictional example. But this is how you get me to feel sympathetic/empathetic towards a "Fuck-Up" of a person.
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get tired all you want then, cause ive seen shitty people clean up their act later on in life when they realized all the fame and glory they get from being a piece of shit didn't do much for them. the dude was fucking 20, fresh outta teenage years where we all make shitty decisions and still making them, he had DECADES to fix up and clean up and be corrected by the systems in place. now he got shot, and thats all we remember. but do we kick him around and say "well he sucked as a human"? no, you keep the shitty comment to yourself. jesus christ this forum.
guess what.
XXXtentacion is fucking dead.
he could've fixed himself. But he can't. Cause he's fucking dead.
And since he's fucking dead. I'm going to judge him for what he did in life. Not in some hypothetical scenario where he somehow go better in life. Maybe if he lived, he might've gotten better. But guess what.
He's fucking dead.
He says while still trying to argue we should totally feel sorry for someone who bragged about nearly beating people to death for no reason.
Yeah, no. There's a difference between teenagers making shitty decisions and doing things like what he did. Writing that off as 'making shitty decisions' is missing the point so hard, your bullet is landing in the next state over.
TB apologized to that person and was on good terms with him later on. He actually wishes people would quit bringing that up because they got over it but somehow angry nerds on the internet can't.
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Totalbiscuit said mean things on Twitter a couple times. Tentacion physically abused and nearly killed innocent people.
Your black and white moral thinking is what's pathetic here. Those of us with spines can recognize that some things are okay and other other similar things might not be okay because context matters. This is an elementary school level concept.
Furthermore, your flagrant throwing around of the term "sociopathy" is pretty disgusting too, while I'm at it. Choosing not to extend your sympathy or empathy for someone you can easily argue does not deserve it doesn't mean you have a serious mental illness.
also its funny how he tries to group an angry comment by Totalbiscuit with XXXTentacion's nearly beating his girlfriend to death the same thing.
Not to mention TB actually apologized and made amends for his relatively mild "offenses" throughout his career. XXXTentacion donated some money and said "this will fix my public image now right guys?"
Grouping those two situations together is honestly fucking laughable. It's such a flagrant disregard for context and moral ambiguity. It's downright idiotic.
He also had decades to beat people near to death or even take it further and cross the line to actually committing murders. He was an actively terrible person when he died, so if we do a predictive model off of where he was, the majority of the conclusions results in him continuing to be a terrible person or getting worse.
If he lived to be 90 but only stopped being terrible at 80, then hey he'd be someone who was good when he died. Doesn't take away from the 60+ years he was a terrible, horrible person. And when other people have to pay for your actions, those 60+ years mean a shitload more than the last 10 unless he makes massive contributions to society that benefit on a large scale.
"Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda" doesn't mean shit.
Debating the worthiness of sympathy for X's death is fine, but please keep it civil. I understand emotions are running high due to the nature of the event so try to avoid attacking others for how they feel on either side of the spectrum.
Just so you don't claim that you were banned for any sort of bias against X or your sympathy, here's an example of how to word your same argument in a well-formed, mature manner (by yours truly).
i just want to know where the line is drawn. i personally think that celebrating someone's death is essentially the same thing as approving of them being killed, no matter if you say "i didn't want them killed". so, where should the line be drawn? how bad of a person do you have to be before it should be okay to kill you? is murder a solution to bad people? should we encourage more people to kill those we as a society deem "undesirable"?
I think its more of the fact that people are demanding we give respect to a person who was a piece of shit up until his death. And we tell them no. Then they come up with hypotheticals of how the person who is dead could've been a better person. We keep telling them that doesn't matter cause the person is dead anyways.
Then people are thinking we're celebrating his death, in reality we are just saying we dont care and we shouldn't.
not caring if someone died is different than something like, say "good riddance" or being glad someone is dead. if your stance is just "eh whatever he was a shit person" then that isn't support of their death. i'm talking more about the people who have expressed happiness at his death. i've seen people who absolutely are celebrating his death moreso than just "i don't care that he's dead".
People who really don't care seem to be posting a lot?
Like when bowie died, I didn't really care so I didn't even open the thread. Much less actually post in it and argue w/ people for page.
i'm not meaning to pass moral judgement on the concept of wanting bad people to die, i just think that it is better to confront that idea and solidify a stance regarding it than to waffle around and avoid taking a stance. if you think that killing can be justified and you accept that as a part of yourself, i can respect that, but what i can't respect is beating around the bush and saying things like "i wouldn't have wished death upon him but i'm glad he is dead". you either think that killing is a viable, moral solution to bad people doing bad things, or you don't.
What is it with all these rappers lately that have names like a fourteen year old's Xbox Live gamer tag?
That name sounds like he recently discovered a love for tentacle porn and wanted to not so subtley let everyone know.
i guess i also kind of see actively saying "I don't care that this shitbag died" isn't very far off from "the world is a better place now that they're dead", which to me is tacit approval of killing bad people.
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look at the freshman cypher for this year
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Just because I'm not upset if a tornado plows through a Nazi rally doesn't mean I'm pro-tornado.
would you have preferred the tornado didn't plow through the rally?
i dont even see people saying "you must respect X because he's dead" people are just saying "respect the dead" you don't have to care about the person to be respectful all it takes is not saying dumb shit like "good riddance"
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