How about just not taking sides before you know what's happening? That'd be a good start.
I don't even think I was taking sides, that's the thing!
This is taking sides. You didn't look into the guy she was mad at and you believed her. I'm not sayin assume she's in the wrong off the ba either, but if you have the time to get her twitter post to link it here you have the time to check her feed and see what he actually said to her, and check out his profile to see what he's about.
Try to get the full, reasonably objective picture first.
I was just trying to point out how he can avoid misunderstandings in the future. People saw his posts as him taking sides because his first post and some of the follow up posts make it seem like he is.
https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/1015319821318328321
https://twitter.com/chetfaliszek/status/1015265577852592133
Industry hot takes
Because Lambeth has said this times before yet they still fuck up every time.
Imagine unironically posting pitchford.
And last time I checked "being human" isn't being a sexist asshat to people.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/146362/41cee6d3-b183-477f-9796-dd2a4ea6066f/comethefuckon.PNG
come the fuck on chet
If you can't handle opinions then fuck off and don't communicate with other human beings ever, in any form. Just keep your eyes down and nod or shake your head.
I thought you were better than this Chet.
Pitchford is known to lie very boldly and directly to someones face and then talk behind their back, as well as massively exaggerate everything and anything that benefits himself.
Anything that he says should pretty much be ignored honestly.
Like I said, fuck nuance, fuck context, you are either on the "SJW-ManHating-GunStealing-Liberals" team or the "AltRight-Misogynist-ImmigrantBlaming-Trumpsters" team. Nobody wants to have a conversation.
As the saying goes, you don't need to be a chef to know food tastes bad. Criticism can be valid from any source for a lot of reasons. If you're only going to take criticism seriously when it's from a specific source, like a co-worker, then whatever it is you're creating for mass appeal is going to have 0 mass appeal
The punishment itself may have been a little excessive--perhaps a very solemn public apology would have sufficed--but what an employee says on public media reflects on the company they work for. If you act like an asshat, it means you're painting your company as an asshat and that's definitely not gonna go down well with the higher ups.
I really don't think it should matter unless you associate yourself with your job on your public profiles.
In this particular case it was extremely work-related though (and it was she herself who brought that up), so I have no problem with it coming back to her.
I will try to hold the "correct opinion" next time
don't do this man
what a bunch of whiny assholes
You don't need the correct opinion.
You need to fucking read.
I did. I came away with a slightly different opinion than you because I have different experiences of the world.
I really, really don't get how anyone can read the comments and come to the conclusion that "This person who was fired was in the right, they did nothing wrong".
The replies she was given that initially started this were polite, respectful and were seemingly in no way intended to cause trouble. It was just someone who's passionate about the game (and is an "influencer" for it) responding to a developers posts about a certain topic with his thoughts on what they'd said; there were absolutely no negative connotations in what he said and it was an honest attempt to discuss a topic that she had initiated a potential discussion about by posting those comments in the first place.
He was courteous with his replies and was attempting to give helpful criticism on what she was saying, and for that, she and others respond in a negative and aggressive tone with what basically amounts to "How dare you talk to me in a public discussion forum, i'm a female dev so you can't criticize what i say, you're sexist!". It's utterly absurd how anyone can think there's no problem and that she should be defended for berating something who was just trying to have a polite discussion.
Twitter is a forum for discussion. The entire point of it is to post messages for other people to read and reply to, that's the purpose of it. She's someone involved with the game and she responded in a very bad way to a person who was entirely respectful to her, that isn't going to reflect well on the company she works for.
I mean this genuinely, what is your opinion on the matter? Just so we can clear the air here.
Those aren't hot takes. You want a hot take?
I'll care about Chet's opinion when his name is in the credits of an original title released in the last 5 years, and I'll care about Randy's opinions of how a game company should be run when his company releases a game that's worth my time.
Jesus Christ this is the worst Sanus sqaud X Tudd cross over I've ever seen.
fuck this mentality
without the players they wouldn't have a business, a community, or a career
whether or not they deserved to get fired, the precedent comments like these set irks me, because it de-legitimizes real, fair criticism in the name of defending asshole developers against the part of their community they otherwise value so much for not being toxic
this stance only makes things worse for everyone and if these opinions match with the rest of the industry, they can kiss our collective asses
how about we defend people against real toxicity and sexism instead of defending a nonsensical idiot who pulls the gender card to defend themselves?
Never knew Chet can be this retarded.
Oh my, Valve, oh my...
He hasn't been at valve in years afaik.
Lambeth is pretty much an honorary member of the squad so it's no surprise.
Try to start with "informed" first, see where that gets you.
My bad then! I was under impression he was still there.
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