Papa Johns founder apologizes after reportedly using slur - Sensationalist Headlines

I feel like at this point you're just desperately trying to convince everyone you're not a little bit racist/homophobic on a subconscious level

The context is that Papa John is a known racist who's blamed the black community for making him lose money at least a couple times.

Dude you're not grasping it at all that there is clearly a socially accepted difference between a word like fuck and a word like faggot. Seriously I have never met someone to even mutter a racial slur or something of that nature as a natural pain response. Normal people aren't having that slip out instead of your normal fucks or shits. I don't know why you can't wrap your head around that and continue to insist that they're of the same caliber and use by people. Stop trying to defend people using shitty slurs and act like its okay if it's after injuring themselves or something like that

I wasn’t commenting on that part, nice try though That’s his hole, not mine - I was responding to a specific point that Pascall made. Do you have an actual argument, or no? Swearing can occur with any emotion and yield positive or negative outcomes. Our work so far suggests that most uses of swear words are not problematic. We know this because we have recorded over 10,000 episodes of public swearing by children and adults, and rarely have we witnessed negative consequences. We have never seen public swearing lead to physical violence. Most public uses of taboo words are not in anger; they are innocuous or produce positive consequences (e.g., humor elicitation). No descriptive data are available about swearing in private settings, however, so more work needs to be done in that area. Therefore, instead of thinking of swearing as uniformly harmful or morally wrong, more meaningful information about swearing can be obtained by asking what communication goals swearing achieves. Swear words can achieve a number of outcomes, as when used positively for joking or storytelling, stress management, fitting in with the crowd, or as a substitute for physical aggression. Recent work by Stephens et al. even shows that swearing is associated with enhanced pain tolerance. This finding suggests swearing has a cathartic effect, which many of us may have personally experienced in frustration or in response to pain. Despite this empirical evidence, the positive consequences of swearing are commonly disregarded in the media. Here is an opportunity for psychological scientists to help inform the media and policymakers by clearly describing the range of outcomes of swearing, including the benefits. guess psycologists are all just homophobes and racists too. The Science of Swearing – Association for Psychological Science

There is giant difference between saying the F word and the N word.

I do not understand what is hard to grasp about the concept of “taboo languge”. This article posted by Harvard mentions it briefly: The Science of Swearing a taboo phrase is a taboo phrase

First, we're from different countries and different cultures. Second, It's an instant thing. "faggot" goes around a lot in denmark. It's mostly just another curse word in that sense. "Motherfucker" is weird because we use different kinda equivalent slurs and some really weird people will use them. It's not just about "being adult" it's about who you are, where you're from, what's the social climate where you are.

Can't relate. I don't generally associate myself with people who just drop 'faggot' out of nowhere considering it's a hurtful word to me and many of the people I call friends so why would I do that? If you wanna be someone who wants to maintain your ability to drop slurs in your everyday conversation, please, be my guest, but don't get up in arms when people decide to either call you out on it for being hurtful or avoid you altogether.

calling people on bullshit is great. Just don't moralize to me about power+privilege or some equally insane bullshit. Generally i don't tend to swear, neither do people in my social circles but when they do, they do according to what i laid out here. Using a word in a heat of the moment like a stubbed toe doesn't make the intention racist or homophobic and i think that's one important thing American youths tend to miss in their eternal quest to pick up the mantle of moral superiority from evangelist extremists. TL;DR: No harm, no foul. calling people on uncool behavior is how society moves forward. People just seem to be overdoing it a bit these past 4 years.

People already gave you actual arguments all you said was "nuh-uh swearing and saying slurs is the same thing

They psychologically are. Taboo words are handled by a different part of the brain than the rest of our language. It’s your choice to to believe the science or not.

Intentionally misinterpreting scientific studies doesn't make it okay to shout the n-word when you stub your toe my man. And no, normal people do not do this.

if you were here to debate instead of pointlessly insult someone you'd actually explain your points. So far you've done the equivelant of plugging your ears and going "LA-LA-LA YOU'RE WRONG". What have I misrepresented? You can't just claim something and act like you have a fucking high ground my man without actually explaining it. I've taken the time to explain my point of view, the least you could do is do the same. What defines normal? Who said that's what I say? Do you actually know what swears people use in private? All I said is that it is not representative of someone's personailty, what curse they shout when they get hurt.

Not every country has the same insanely complicated and insanely broken race relations of America. You won't find the same insane dedication to systematic racism where i live. The linguistics of racism is much less widespread and considered less harmful in the circumstance of fucking stubbing a goddamn fucking toe, holy SHIT america! cut the moral grandstanding?

People who don't say racial slurs to begin with or think them often arent going to find those words slipping out. Of course just because they said it doesn't mean it was intended as racist but you can't refute that the word has a seriously negative connotation that anyone saying it is aware of You can say that it isn't necessarily reflective of your personality but it certainly says something about the individual and the way they were raised, how people will view you, etc. whether you want to believe it or not. The article you shared does not refute this and was not written with the points you're trying to make in mind And please don't start with this "what is normal" thing. Everyone knows that saying "nigger" in a professional or even a social situation outside of a group of people who are known to use it is socially unacceptable and frowned upon. Even the crustiest of old racist men who couldn't care less know that in today's society the majority of people find that word unacceptable

Can we talk about the insanely complicated broken race relations of america when the story is about an american who said a racist word in america?

that’s not even close to a situation i’m talking about! This entire time I have been talking about cathartic swearing and how the swears you use without even thinking in that context do not reflect on who you are, just like other automatic thoughts. That’s the whole point I’ve been making.

We can absolutely go back to the Roman era playing to the crowd. I never said he was in the right FYI.