condescending and wrong are just my favorite combination of flavors
Lol. Back in the real world plenty of professionals and businessmen use them. All of our workstations are Macs at my office.
IBM in particular fucking loves giving Macs to their employees instead of PCs thanks to lower support costs.
IBM says it is 3X more expensive to manage PCs than Macs | Compu..
It's not about needing it, it's about having the option of more space. The base model has a 512 GB SSD. Also you can store more stuff without having to bring an external hard drive around.
Having owned a macbook for many years, if you're using it day in and day out nearly every day, the QOL improvements and general quality really are appreciable.
It's more expensive than it should be imo, but the build quality is really nice.
I use a thinkpad now and while it's pretty nice to use, I do miss how good the macbook felt.
Macbooks do feel nice, I like a lot about them, especially the screen and the giant-ass touchpad the latest generation has, but it's still not worth it
Still not worth it for you. It's worth it for me and for plenty of other people.
Love the macbook pro, hate the fact they removed the SD card slot
Don't mind about everything being USB-C but I really can't buy "the dongle life"
Same, big reason why I'm still on a 2015. USB-C isn't a replacement for an SD slot.
Okay I will go tell my boss and CEO they are not professionals because they use macbooks, thank you for the info
Ah yes, trade work. The forefront of all professional computing. How could I forget?
Today I learned that jobs only exist at construction sites, corporate offices, and trade schools. Also, graphic designers, video editors, and musicians - people I know gravitate to Apple products - are apparently not professionals.
4tb ssd of nvme ram no fuckin wonder its 7k
If there was actual competitor then the price wouldn't be as high as it is. They do what they need to do very well.
I do agree if you are buying the thing without a purpose it's incredibly wasteful.
My daily driver isn't even worth that much...
Also repairing and servicing Apple products is an absolute nightmare, made worse by shoddy and unreliable designs that need a lot of servicing.
Problem I have with modern macbooks or any Apple product is that what you buy is what you get. You can't add a new hard drive or more memory later. Its pretty challenging since I manage an enterprise environment that uses mostly Mac's for Final Cut. You basically just have to shelve it and buy a new one. Also the batteries tend to bloat and expand in their frame or just wear out and it gets harder to replace them every generation.
Also dongles, DONGLES EVERYWHERE, I have shelves full of expensive USB-C dongles that people misplace all of the time, you'd think a company that prides its self on ease of use would get the idea.
4TB of SSD is pretty sweet, although the only people i think of who would really use that are video editors. At that point though, you're wasting your money on thermal throttling and generally slower computer with it being a laptop. I built a 5000 dollar desktop for video editing with a xeon and 2 TB of internal SSDs, with a 16 TB external raid for archiving. Seems a lot more practical.
this is not true. In the live sound and studio industry, a lot of the best software is designed specifically for Mac, and from my experience it has much better compatibility with audio hardware and is much more stable than anything I've run on Windows.
Go to any kind of gig, you'll see at least one macbook propped up next to a mixing desk - there's a reason why they're used so much
This is more an operating system thing than anything though, as macs and PC insides are pretty much the same with varying layouts
That is technically true, but Macs only come with macOS and PCs only come with Windows, so it's kind of a moot point when it comes to Mac vs PC shit.
Wrong
the sentiment's not wrong when he's trying to explain that only macbooks come with macOS, whether you can buy a laptop equipped with linux is moot in his case.
Is your point that you can install Linux afterwards? Because yeah, no shit, but my point is what it comes with and what the mass majority of people use. Mac computers can also run Windows but that's besides my point.
I'm also aware a few PCs have the option of coming with Linux, but again, besides the point.
My point is that when it comes to Mac vs PC arguments, it's more than reasonable to consider it an argument of "Mac computer running macOS" vs "PC running Windows" rather than any odd combination of the two or throwing Linux in the mix since all other options aren't statistically significant.
In this case they are the only two viable options. Sound engineers don't run Linux because there's fuck all hardware or software support for those devices. The point I'm trying to make is that Macbooks Pros (and their operating system) have a genuine professional use case and should not be chalked up as being an expensive fashion item when they reliably serve their purpose for years on end. I know people still rocking 2008 Macbook Pros - unheard of if it was a "Windows" laptop from the same period.
the i9 processor in the macbook pro gets throttled massively and heats everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx8J125s4cg
People who are surprised:
ryzen is what actually belongs in either. jewtel can't make a decent multi-die chip for the life of them
Macbooks dont kick in the fans until the CPU hits like 80°C or something
the instant the i9 turns on it'd overheat
Unless something's changed since the 2015, I don't think that's true. There's definitely a gentle fan curve starting around 50 or 60°C on my MBP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgeh7ZJRhZU
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