• UK: Half of young people want electric cars
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Making it individual is just throwing out all the benefits public transport had in the first place
how?
You can have electric self driving cars taxiing people around, and that might work quite well, but I'm not sure that is "public transport" in itself. No more so than taxis are today anyway.
If it's individual, then what's the point of it even being public transport at that point? It doesn't save street space or money and it's not better for the environment than if I actually owned it. Would you order a taxi if your own car was right there in front of you?
At least in cities, people aren't always using their cars. A kind of pod system could work, or just a less populated multi person public transport
But how is one of those pods going to be better than a personal self-driving car? It is going to be more expensive, just like how taxis are more expensive than your own cars are
Why is it necesarilly more expensive? keep in mind I'm talking Dooooowwwn the road here
If individual public transport is more expensive now I have no reason to believe it won't be in the future.
It might be cheaper due to the higher uptime of the car, but it's probably not environmentally any better unless you do carpooling in it.
Well at the moment you're mostly paying for labor
Why wouldn't someone want an EV? They're better in every way, and you can fill it up at home.
Well no one is saying to get rid of bikes so idk what you're saying
And I'll still have to pay for labor. Someone will have to maintain the driverless pods and someone will have to clean them.
That's a whole lot less than paying a driver
We have terrible street parking so i'm not entirely sure how this'll work. i often have to park 50m away from my home which would pretty much leave charging at work to be the only viable option but there's not a chance in hell my boss would cough up for charging points.
There are so many places in the world where people choose public transport over having their own vehicle. Public transport isn't inherently crap, just that most places in America and UK can't seem to get it right.
A lot of grants available for EV charging at work now, up to 75% of the cost of each sockets. On street charging is getting more attention as well, with street lights getting charging points. Sounds like wireless charging is being considered as well.
The new Golf comes as an EV. It looks pretty nice and that's not very big at all.
I mean, I will miss roaring ICE's, but we need to move on.
not talking about fun in the performance. talking about interior quality and looks Many brands do waaay better jobs at interior design and quality. Yes its subjective, and I am the big center console kind of guy, but christ some cars have amazing trainwrecks of design for the sake of "artistic vision" and ~futuristic~ Had no idea the Model X was a SUV. Certainly doesn't looks like one, but I'm used to the classic SUV look anyway, and honestly hate all SUVs and crossovers except for Range Rovers.
I could see it theoretically being a pain in the ass to own one if you have to do long haul drives even semi regularly.
Give me an electric motorbike with a decent highway range and I'd buy one in a heartbeat, petrol is so expensive in the UK
Zero bikes are lovely 👌 I've got a Nissan leaf on test drive for all of today and so far I love it. 150-180 miles is perfect for me. I'm also seeing a lot of pensioners driving EVs which is nice to see, I think it's the middle aged people who are going to be the hardest to accept EVs.
It's absolutely arse that electric vehicles didn't develop like the gasoline engines. Damn lizard people selling oil, if it wasn't for them, we would all be driving around in electric vehicles while the gasoline using vehicles would be considered odd, wasteful and yesterdays technology. The EVs just need more time to advance, there is currently great progress but the tech just isn't there yet.
ePedal and pro pilot are nice. I was tempted to push the Model 3 back a year and upgrade to the new Leaf, but didn't out of principle with how they are handling rapid gate. Guys in the video seem to think the interior quality is pretty good, and that seems to be the general consensus. Looks are entirely subjective and it's up to you if you like it or not.
True, but probs not a problem in the UK. Every major town looks to be 1 or 2 hours from each other. Would be good if charging times of batteries could be cut down, even to a few minutes, I'm sure the tech will get there soon
Because they're being selfish, immature, fucklords. I imagine they're largely similar to the people protesting the ban of coal rolling. Tough shit, the planet comes before your hobby.
Oh yeah the zero bikes are awesome, but as I said, highway range isn't good enough for me yet unfortunately, if I could charge them in 10 mins or so I'd buy one like, yesterday
Public transport can be pretty good, but it's kind of a chicken and egg problem for many places with shitty public transport. For example, living around Copenhagen, having a car is convenient, but you'll be paying waaaay more than if you were using public transport as your main method of transportation, and a lot of the time it wouldn't even really be faster. Bring your bike on the train and you're not even beholden to stations and bus stops, even if you live 40 minutes from the city.
It's still regurgitated ass. Nothing pleasant about slipping into a tin can with half-assed aircon that may not even be working with 30-90 other people running on a timetable you have no control over. Whether or not it's practical in a certain area is irrelevant to it being a universally unpleasant prospect. I don't care how good an idea it is to use it in certain areas(Even if I would use it if I were visiting somewhere like NYC or London as it is the most practical way to get around such cities), it's still going to be most unpleasant. The personal automobile is by and far the most preferable means of getting around on grounds of comfort, privacy, convenience. It's also the only way to get around in a lot of places, like the rural areas I live in.
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