New Zealand to replace 'sexist' road signs after 7-year-old girl's plea
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Holy sheesh I can kind of understand saying "i dont get why you'd be bothered by this," but you're genuinely just as bad if not worse if you're, well, getting bothered by this.
One of the first posts was a "fuck off," like christ, why would you get that upset over this? Why would your reaction be any more than a "huh, I don't think that's really necessary, but alright."
Like they're just acknowledging how the sign terms reflect into modern terms. No one's saying "I want a course on U.S. Herstory!" or anything like that. Someone said "hey, isn't that a bit weird?" And people decided "yeah, it is, we'll change it as we go along."
No one's sitting back in their chair with a content smile on their face going "ah, another point for feminism." No one's saying "the word linemen oppresses women." Someone actually just thought about the word and realized it doesn't make much sense.
For some reason, people don't think that children have any sort of interest in changing the things around them and that it must be the parent.
I'm not even talking about that, and frankly, I don't care about the source of the inquiry.
Your dad caught the fish! NOT YOU! RIGHT IN THE CHILDHOOD!
So because you seem to think based on what exactly that a 7 year old would not write like this, you find it hard to believe?
If anything the parents might have fixed the grammar or with the formalities in writing a letter, but it's not outlandish for a 7 year old to write like this.
https://www.understood.org/en/learning-attention-issues/signs-symptoms/age-by-age-learning-skills/writing-skills-what-to-expect-at-different-ages
Seems to match exactly with what you'd expect in the 7-9 age range.
Also there's faar too many people who will go on about feminists getting triggered and/or people being too sensitive these days that without realizing it they get really offended/triggered
Why is wanting equal representation of genders such a deplorable agenda?
My god people in this thread are getting worked up over nothing.
The real impact of small actions like these is that they bring out the unconscious biases in us. If your kneejerk reaction to a headline about a child attempting to make a difference is to see red, barely read the article and immediately try to discredit them, you're either too dismissive or too ignorant of the issues they're addressing.
The other sex is called woMAN for god sakes. The whole race is called MANkind/huMAN. The word "man" can be a gender neutral reference to all people. This whole issue came from them creating a problem that didn't exist and then stepping in to fix it.
There's nothing wrong with change, but the way I read these kind of signs (and how I think they're meant to be?) is that the use of man doesn't stand for male, but for human, thus being inclusive for women as well.
It's not a big deel, but it does feel kind of silly to me to change every word like that instead of teaching that man can also mean human in this instance and doesn't necessarily exclude women.
Who demanded? It was suggested and they agreed, why is changing it a problem?
The child may well have asked the question, at which point the parents should have done their civic duty to explain why one should not concern themselves with sexism in road signs at seven years of age.
Can I not state an opinion without having a "temper tantrum?" lol
Discouraging involvement in politics and government is the opposite of civic duty.
Stating an opinion means nothing in this context. You're still triggered as hell
So does that make the little girl, and mother, the most triggered people around? Hell, they wrote a whole letter, GASP!
You're just being silly. We're on a forum where the whole point is to state one's opinion and have discussions.
Kids are like sponges, they absorb information from people, so the kids parents must be stuck-up.
This change will probably costs millions of dollars to roll out, for no reason.
We're all expressing our opinions all of the time. Going on about how you're stating one doesn't help your case. And it isn't a competition about whose more triggered, that's a simple minded view. For all I care they might just as well be triggered.
So tell me, why does it bother you so much that the word man gets replaced? Given how it's a problem they created it shouldn't matter to you. Unless it does because you seem mightily uncomfortable with it, for some reason.
You really are incredible. People go out of their way to insult me, while totally ignoring what I actually said, and I'm in the wrong for responding to it.
It matters because teachings kids to get offended about shit like this is setting them up for an unhappy life of victimhood. The mom, or someone else, obviously taught the kid that this kind of thing sort of thing is a form of sexist oppression.
You can present your opinion without being so melodramatic.
There clearly is an underlying problem here considering the reactions that got posted here
This is ridiculous. The leap of logic from suggesting to change a road sign to "leading a life of victimhood" is pretty laughable and tells me that you're making an awful lot of assumptions about the kid and other people who might not even be involved.
Furthermore, if it's not a big deal that the sign is the way it is, then surely its not a big deal to change it either, hm?
You really are that paranoid, aren't you? Because this (as far as we know) has absolutely nothing to do with sexist opression or whatever the strawpeople inside of your head say. Rather it has more to do with a 7 year old doing what 7 year olds occationaly do, which is commenting on the stuff they see.
In fact if you read the letter if sounds more like the kid talked with their parents about it in a non-screaming manner. And if they actually change the signs then it will show the child that actually doing stuff about stuff will get stuff done unlike the shitposting we are currently doing.
Also I didn't really want to bother with the rest of your post. It's just noise, same as this paragraph.
My coworker and I we're driving back from a jobsite and I noticed a "men at work" sign on the side of the road and I jokingly made a comment, "women work too you know, assholes."
People seriously take offense to those signs now?
Did you read the article or the thread? The change is being rolled out as signs are being replaced due to wear and tear, the difference in cost is practically nothing.
Did you coworker clap afterwards?
And certainly people don't take offense with these signs. They just acknowledge that it wouldn't be a bad idea to have "people at work" instead. But if you really want to see people taking offense, you should take a trip to the first page.
for how left-wing facepunch seems to be, it's weird to see how absolutely enraged people get whenever something like this happens.
A few years ago, there was a pretty consistent anti-feminist, anti-SJW following that would react this way all the time. I remember there being 10+ page threads arguing about feminism on a pretty regular basis. Since then, SJW outrage porn has kind of taken a gone away for the most part and I'd say the people here have become less sensitive to it now that alt-right politics are so prevalent now.
people who moan about SJWs and liberals are the whiniest bunch of crybabies I've ever seen
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