Fallout 76's beta and full game will not be released on Steam
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you still bought it
I'm probably in the very small minority of people who don't necessarily mind publishers making their own distribution programs, as I think competition is a good thing (though I'd be hard-pressed to say anyone, with the possible exception of GOG, can compete with Steam).
I can't speak much for Origin since I only rarely use it, but uPlay is alright. Spending points that you earn by playing their games to buy simple little add-ons like skins or wallpapers is fun and actually gives you an incentive to complete achievements. It's certainly more fun that Steam's trading cards, at least in my opinion. Honestly, I wish there was a way to put up all the cards I have on the marketplace for $0.01 because God help me if I'm going to spend hours going through hundreds of cards just to possibly end up with a couple of dollars.
HOWEVER, I can't imagine I would ever care to use a Bethesda retailer. Their library of first party games isn't large enough to incentivize me signing up for one. They have a good amount of third party games, sure, but considering they've all been on sale with Steam for years it's not gonna attract many new customers. And like some folks here have already mentioned, I don't necessarily think Zenimax would be very honest with their consumers, especially with how they and Bethesda only want to permit people to make mods so long as they receive a profit.
tl;dr - I don't give a shit about Vault 76 or even Elder Scrolls 6 at this point. And while I don't think other publishers getting into their own digital distribution programs is a bad thing, I really don't see Bethesda being a realistic addition.
Ah fuck, I didn't even think about the fact that this might impact Doom Eternal. And unlike you, there's no way In hell I could stand playing it with dual analog. This sucks.
I already have like 10 fucking game clients, why do I need another one !?
used so he won’t get that dosh
steam may not always be the good guy, even if companies moving away from it makes for a bad user experience it's good to have some competition i guess
we just need a big wrapper that can seamlessly launch any game on any platform
Now i wont even buy it from a sale
I can't speak for anyone else, but when I say a competitor to Steam would be good, I mean another digital storefront that offers a large variety of games by different developers and publishers in different genres. Not another single-publisher ecosystem that we already have five of.
The only storefront that even qualifies as a competitor to Steam is GOG.
Origin, Uplay, Battle.net and now this cheap Battle.net knock-off all just act as walled garden DRMs so that they can sell their own titles without having to give a cut of the profits to someone else.
When I hoped for competition to Steam, I meant something actually like Steam, not a program for a single publisher's games where they can block reviews and control refund policies.
Jesus, how many fucking launchers do we have to install just because we want to play a game from a different publisher?
This is one of the occasions where I think that Steam's monopoly is best for the consumer.
stop crying not a big deal
Honestly I think steam needs to make adjustments to revenue split, Epic games lowered to around 18% for there asset store cause they were making a fuckton of money anyway.
There are so many fucking launchers now I can't remember what games I own under which laucher anymore.
Quake Champions didn't have a very strong start and i'd say that besides not raking in the attention like some other online shooters, the Bethesda launcher was a main reason which is why it inevitably came to Steam. With Fallout, you'd have more people willing to give it a shot, but 'not launching on Steam' is probably their method of trying to ascertain sales under their own rules first. Maybe (read: hopefully) it'll bite them in the ass, but probably not.
As bad as this sounds, with the way Valve has been acting lately this might be for the best.
It would be good if they were competition. It's not competition if they all have their own exclusive games. I'm not playing Battlefield 1 on Origin because it's a superior platform to Steam, only because I have no other choice.
I'm exactly one of those people, the only Fallout i've played was New Vegas, and i didn't even finish it because i got bored after a couple of hours, same thing for Skyrim,i just have a hard time liking Bethesda's open world games. Fallout 76 interested me because I have some friends who like it as well and we'd like to play it together, the setting is also way cooler than Fallout 4's.
I've ended up preordering the game as an impulse buy, but this news is making me want to cancel it (or atleast get it on a console if my other friends are okay with doing that as well).
Bethesda Launcher is awful, I remember that when downloading a patch for Quake Champions, it basically downloaded the entire game again and put the old version in another folder as a backup, i had like 30 gbs of space occupied by the same game.
If the game is gonna be as empty and boring as Fallout 4, there is no reason to buy it. I'm willing to bet it is, and I'm sure they alienated the FO3 and NV crowd with it already. I believe it's going to be garbage and the multiplayer aspect of it is going to be some sort of hack BS.
Just to be sure, i've opened Bethesda Launcher to see if it has got any better.
The updater took 10 fucking minutes for 100 mbs because it continuously stopped and i had to close and open the application again, once in, it automatically started to download quake champions and allocated 20 gbs on my hard disk even after i've clicked on unistall. Well made.
What single player? its always online
I thought you could play alone as well. That just makes it even worse.
Beside the point.
Origin, Uplay, Steam, GoG Galaxy, Battle.net, now Bethesda... I just wanna play the games I buy, not load my PC up with all the bloat
They've got 12 billion other great games. This, to me, means that any chance I had of trying FO76 is much much lower now (basically 0 because the game didn't sound very good)
While I'm not too bothered whether it's on Steam or not the problem is that Steam has regional pricing where they sell games for cheap to those who live in poor countries such as mine.
I'm definitley not paying half the minimum wage for a mediocre Rust clone.
You'll still buy it, so the publisher wins.
Gamers: "Steam feels like it has a monopoly on game sales"
Also Gamers: "Not on Steam? Pass"
I really just don't fucking care as long as the client is actually sane. (Origin's client is fucked but not unusable). I just wanna play some vidya. I've had my EA account for over eight years and you bet your ass I'm still going to buy and play battlefield games
GOG's pretty great though since little if not no games required Galaxy since DRM isn't a thing.
It's required for multiplayer functions on games that are sold there though, but only if developers opt in to their integration (No Mans Sky)
Don't buy ubisoft games on steam then, buy them from retail or licensed key sellers, you'd be getting a better deal even beating steam, and won't have to deal with two platforms
If you browse reddit like I do and are subbed to r/Fallout because of F4/NV. You'll get spammed with Amazon ads for 20% Fallout 76.
An always-online spin off that has caused near universal derision among it's fanbase was probably a bad idea as a title to go with for the first truly exclusive beth.net title.
I said this in the Fallout thread back when this was just rumored, but I have legitimately lost all will to buy FO76 at all now. Not out of some protest towards multiple gaming platforms, I just can't be fucked adding beth.net into my mix of clients for one game, a game I might not even like.
They should have waited for the next Elder Scrolls to try this imo.
Uplay still baffles me. Rocksmith is an Ubisoft game so naturally it used Uplay even if you bought it via Steam. But then one day it was suddenly removed without any explanation. I can start the game directly through steam or Uplay. It makes no sense, not that I'm complaining. Also I'll never forget the time I saw a guy walking around with an Ubisoft sweater in town and I asked him if he worked for them. He said yes and I told him that's cool etc etc and he said "It's not as fun as you think, I work on Uplay" in a defeated tone.
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