‘Battlefield V’ pre-order numbers are "weak", could be next "Titanfall 2" - Sensationalist Headlines

This is anecdotal, but I have played every single Battlefield game bar Bad Company 1, Heroes, and that BF2 F2P thing. I have zero interest in this newest entry. Absolutely none. That first trailer fell completely flat and made it seem pretty clear to me that I am not part of their target audience for this new game. I can’t imagine that I am the only series veteran that feels that way. This whole game feels generic as hell. It doesn’t help that we just had COD WWII come out that pretty mild as well in my opinion.

Which is too bad, because MTX with Battlefront 2 and EA being shits probably played a large part in it, now its just deflecting blame.

If they sack DICE, all they have is Bioware, the indie developers they'll devour the souls of eventually, and sports that's even tipping the rage limits of some dedicated fans. I can see them placing all their bets on Anthem, but all things considered, getting rid of what little variety they have left in solid game devs simply because it doesn't make as much money as they would like it to would just be burning down yet another bridge that they're running low on.

It's 85% behind Blops 4, not BF1. They're comparing how BF1 was ahead of its CoD competitor. We aren't sure how exactly its pairing up to BF1

https://twitter.com/JeffGrubb/status/1031945656854691840

I've had terrible performance on both battlefront 4 and battlefield 1 with constant stuttering. That and the loot-box debacle meant i never ended up buying battlefront 2, and battlefield 1 was the first BF game i'd ever not bought expansion packs/DLC for. I really hope BF5 goes back to the old formula but i have a feeling its been created as a money printer for the shareholders and nothing more.

Tbh I'm not entirely sure why people base their interest in a game on the first trailer. There's loads of examples of the first look at a game making it seem like it's something wildly different to what people were expecting or what they actually get. With one of the most notorious examples being DOOM 2016, where the first gameplay video had nerds screeching to the heavens about how it'd been dumbed down for consoles and "wasn't doot". The first gameplay was done with a gamepad, clearly. But only to show the environments and gameplay mechanics off without xxx_turbobhop_420_xxx inputs causing issues. Turns out first trailers and gameplay footage things are meant to cast a wide net to get people who otherwise might not look at the thing to take a look.

He doesn't cite anything, which is strange for a journalist until you google him and find out he likes to false DMCA strike tweets that criticize him. Gonna need more substantial evidence.

Sounds more like a Polygon article to me

There's a difference?

https://www.gamesradar.com/battlefield-5-developers-wish-theyd-included-women-in-battlefield-1-too/ Ask and you shall recieve. The entire article is a hit piece mocking people not happy with the cosmetics as misogynists. Also dice soubling down on "allowing players to express themselves has always been the focus of BF" is downright stupid. Just fucking admit the focus on cosmetic microtransactions was a bad move after focusing on authenticity literally the game before.

They wish they included women in Battlefield 1? Do they mean like the women they included in the In the Name of the Tsar DLC? The women they use as the header image for the game on the Origin store? Jesus Christ. I thought they were being shitheads before but pretending women aren't in Battlefield 1 just to shit on people complaining about Battlefield V? Literally whitewashing their last game to look more progressive now. Fuck me.

Gamesradar's take is crap but I don't think the developer in question said anything objectionable. I've said before that I'd personally prefer a more authentic experience (toned down customization, no women in muliplayer) but if we have to have that stuff I'd much rather the devs just come out and say "It fit's our vision" of WW2 than making some grandiose statement about being on the right side of history because they gave women and minority soldiers an unbalanced representation in their historical game.

I'm sure they mean in the base game and how they implemented women in Battlefield V rather than having them as DLC only.

Oh... wow they're actually going down the route that people were joking that they would.

lol at that article as I remember another article 2 years ago saying the exact opposite from DICE after rumors of CoD WWII having playable women started to surface The flip flop is amazing

When people say "Authenticity" that doesn't mean realism or it needs to be a full recreation or anything like that. It means that it has a look, sound, feel, tone etc that feels believable in relation to the actual thing - the verisimilitude of it overall. The Battlefield games have not been accurate or realistic - as in the exact details have never matched up with combat in their chosen setting - but they have always been authentic - the uniforms were correct, sounds were done well, locations looked like what they claimed to be, the tone was what you'd expect from a serious portrayal of the setting etc. This was said in the context of a TV show, but it explains it: "Historical fiction...cannot be accurate"... “You have to take liberties with the historical record because you’re constructing stories which are meaningful and to which your audience can respond. That is your primary obligation as an entertainer and a storyteller. What you CAN be is authentic, by which I mean you can try to get the details right: gesture, hair, costume, architecture, color, movements, dynamism and interaction, performance. All of those things you can inform as a consultant and you can offer your help on and it can be accepted if its helpful or quarreled with if it is disagreed with, or whatever else. But that is your job: to help provide a world that is authentic. An authentic world is a coherent world; it feels like it all hang together.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Wu-zAdbc4 at around 36 minutes in Battlefield one was authentic in the individual elements included in the game and the overall feel and tone it created, even if it didn't match the actual combat of WW1. It's utterly absurd how he's equating gameplay that happens as the result of player agency and the simple fact that it's a video game which inherantly can't be entirely realistic, with their chosen representation of the setting being purposefully innaccurate.

that's the funny thing, BF1 takes place towards the very tail end of WW1 where mechanized combat was taking over trench warfare. Majority of WW1 movies and media focus on the early parts of the war, but late WW1 had set up the same strategies that evolved in WW2 with tank support and blitzing using armored carriers.

Have you got a source for that? All i can find is something apparently from an ex-developer, which isn't quite the same as DICE saying it.

Like clockwork.

Battlefield 1 doesn't have female soldiers because 'boys wouldn'.. Funny how this original line of thinking would've worked here and that they could've put women in Soviets and resistance groups for that believable angle

Historical Accuracy > political message that will give you a few brownie points

Well hold the fuck on son that changes things. The Treyarch call of duty games are fan favorites by a wide margin, and guaranteed to soak up preorders. "Black ops 4" has way more staying power then "Call of Duty WW2" Maybe telling people to fuck off and not buy it had the opposite effect then what was wanted though...

i thought it was Battlefield IIIII?

This is all you're going to hear now thought. All the people defending Battlefield V have defaulted to the defense that "there's regenerating health, so authenticity is a crock," from the very moment the game was first revealed. As far as these people are concerned, you are not allowed to have the opinion that "maybe we could have women and minorities in historically accurate roles on the battlefield, instead of fucking black female nazis" - because that's SEXIST and RACIST. I mean sure, there's plenty of goons who hate the game that are sexist and racist, but every game franchise has fans who are like that. Doesn't mean literally everyone bemoaning the new Battlefield is an alt-right trump supporting skinhead like the self-righteous progressives are claiming. Facepunch alone is proof of that - the vast majority of people here are left of center and more progressive than like 99 percent of elected American Democratic politicians. But apparently we're no better than real nazis just because we think fictional black female nazi infantry is fucking dumb.

what you're saying is: people who don't like the new direction battlefield is taking aren't the monolithic mass of sexists that their opponents say they are, and people who are defending battlefield are a monolithic mass of SJW's.

I bought battlefield 1 on a whim recently cause it was on sale. I think the original teaser wasn't really in line with the tone of the final game. https://youtu.be/c7nRTF2SowQ Also the single player falls kinda flat for me because you're just mowing down dudes left and right but I guess that's the battlefield style.

You're right. I should have been more clear. When I meant "all the people defending Battlefield V," I was speaking in regards to people defending that particular element of V. And even then, I suppose it's guaranteed there are people on the web who are cool with the women and minorities in all roles and haven't resorted to shaming other gamers for disliking it. I just haven't seen them - all the self-righteous progressive holdouts, from the Kotaku comments section to Resetera, are defaulting to the position I illustrated, and sometimes going so far as to ban people who disagree for sexism/racism.

I'm a simple (nostalgic) man. Give me 1942 with a modern engine and graphics and that amazing battlefield sound design. Throw in Controllable aircraft carriers and submarines and a distinct lack of bells and whistles and I'd be through the roof.

God yes. That's literally all I want, and all I have been asking for for years. Unfortunately you just cannot make that game today as it was, because you need to monetize it and people demand unlocking/progression/customization in their modern shooters. I just want a classic Battlefield 1942/2 style game with modern graphics, sound design, and quality of life improvements. That's a niche that's not being filled anymore now that EA has pushed Battlefield further into the hyper fast paced COD style gameplay and design while all the realistic shooters like Hell Let Loose, Post Scriptum, and Squad all go too far in the realism direction to be as accessible and "fast" as classic Battlefield.