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I would think the onus would be on you to explain ethical farming and what measures it takes to dramatically reduce its negative environmental impact. All I know is that it's better for the animals involved, not the environment, and is in fact worse in terms of product output as it causes greater damage with less output.

It's basic fact now that livestock farming is the largest contributor to climate change and deforestation, explain to me how ethical farming reduces that impact.

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I’m not arguing that factory farming practices lead to that run off. I think you would be hard pressed to find the effect of small ethical farms in that amount as they tend to not use anti biotics, or pesticides at the same rate.

As as for the piece about deforestation, if we’re removing factory farms it seems to me there’s a good bit of land that’s in need of saving. One of the best ways to bring “nature” back is the use of live stock to fertilize the ground naturally on a proper diet. This doesn’t require deforestation. This isn’t more water intense than you think.

The greatest water costing crop is almonds. Almonds grown in California are a huge ecological impact as they require a massive amount of water.

Yes animals require water and food so the cost does go up but somehow my cries of “decrease consumption” fall on deaf ears when heard In Conjunction with continue ethical farming for the good of our ecology

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The almond production issue in California is a very localised problem irrespective of global crop production. There are many other meats and crops which require much more water to produce a single serving of. And this is just water we're talking about, not all other negative impacts on the environment.

Look I think we are in agreement somewhere here. I can see that your argument is that people should support ethical farms AND consume less meat. However, I still feel that ethical farming by itself doesn't reduce the environmental impact of livestock agriculture, it's more the reducing meat consumption part. It's more dependent on the number of animals being farmed.

If people want to reduce the amount of meat they eat and only consume meat from ethic farms, then sure go ahead, but I believe that the consumption part of it is way more important and will have a much larger impact. I hope you're putting your money where your mouth is.