Burnaby pride sidewalk vandalized with painting of question mark and (((cloud))) - Sensationalist Headlines

shit u right

I'm all for supporting people in what they do But this is silly and yes, i fully know Canada's abominable history. A wrong does not mean we need to acknowledge factually untrue things as "real". This isn't a real thing. There are no spirits, let alone "2 spirit" people. we really need to be rational about what we're talking about.

its the cloud people

I don't know if I'd go that far, from my really shallow dive into it just now it seems to represent a type of non-binary identity classified within indigenous faith. Seems kinda neat tbh

If they want to do it, fucking go for it, I'm not stopping them. I'm also not going to recognize it as a full fledged gender or life style just because I'm being told I have to when none of the logical reasoning stands up to questioning. It's closely tied with indigenious ceremonies, it's not something that a tumblrina can just "identify" as. It's "cultural appropriation" to do so, and I have seen that very thing done. I didn't know the LGBT mantra protected highly religious ceremonial roles that have nothing to do with any of the other "LGBT" roles.

http://is2.4chan.org/pol/1532058881600.png the jig is UP

First of all, drop the aggressiveness. I actually sort of agree with you. It's something that immediately stood out to me while looking into it. They (sometimes) really, really don't want outsiders involved, and that's a common theme I notice in regards to Native American culture, they want to protect it by keeping it to themselves. So people should definitely respect that and refrain from claiming that identity. And yes you're right, doing so would legitimately be cultural appropriation. So I don't necessarily think the LGBT umbrella should take in the two-spirit identity if they don't want to be included. But it's not my call or yours to say whether they do or not. And it seems like maybe they do, sometimes. Here's a group of them marching (trolleying??) at 2014 San Francisco Pride. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/SF_Pride_2014_-_Stierch_2.jpg/1920px-SF_Pride_2014_-_Stierch_2.jpg But anyway, saying they're illegitimate or don't hold up to scrutiny like a bit too far to go. Personally I think I'll just take this sort of thing as it comes.

See, what I wanna know is why the fuck didn't they call it a pridewalk

The cross is a symbol of oppression tho.

Until I see a second T in "LGBTQIA2S", I'm not believing that you truly support transvestites.

Jesus was ahead of his time.

i'm sorry what i know that HIV disproportionately affects LGBT people but you can't include diseases in the acronym, I'm sorry, that's the rules

I personally don't like using it or having it used toward me, but that's mostly because I read a lot of historical literature which uses it as a slur on par with "faggot" and so that connotation is still kinda zapped for me.

Honestly even if it wasn't a slur it just sounds really stupid.

To someone implying that Pride is a Jewish ploy?

Am I the only one who finds that flag extremely offensive? "Join our community! We have lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transexuals... and the darkies get their own corner"

it makes the flag ugly and ruins the rainbow theme completely The individual stripes were never meant to signify anything in particular on their own, it's the whole spectrum of color that represents the whole spectrum of genders and sexualities. Adding stripes that represent specific things completely ruin the symbolism

Interesting, but I don't feel like adding black and brown stripes really fits with those meanings either.

I have no concept of why those 8 traits are being associated with the LGBT movement. I'm bisexual, and frankly don't like any of this LGBT stuff. I've had enough gay people throw shade at me for being bi that I just don't care, and when you show me an image like this I'm just confused by how those are things being "claimed" by a side Like i'm just not sure what message is being pushed by having those 8 traits associated with the flag. The flag as a symbol is doing a pretty good job on it's own IMO.

Black/Brown meaning "Minorities" doesn't fit regardless.

I agree with all of that, and black people absolutely deserve even more recognition within the LGBT community but unfortunately, I'm also an insufferable flag nerd and I can't get over the added stripes making the flag busy, unbalanced and generally ugly. Black is generally frowned upon for use on the edges of flags anyway, and for good reason. It looks okay on screens but looks like garbage in cloth, flying in sunlight.

i remember reading a while back a proposal for a new pride flag

You should expand on this, or most folks will assume the worst. Assuming that I just massively misinterpreted your post, and you don't actually believe what you're implying.

it is a joke

Have you read his other posts?

it was mentioned in a gender studies class I took and even the group I was with was unfamiliar with it. But whatever it's not hurting anyone, I don't need a deep understanding of it but I can accept it.

are you assuming my gender?

Wait, so 2-Spirit is exclusive to Native culture, right?

Not even joking, I'm being 100 percent serious. I'm MtF transgendered.

The problem with the brown and black stripes are that the "original" colors represent aspects of life that literally any human being can agree makes for a good and fullfilling life. Ie. It's the most inclusive in its original form since it equates all races as equal by giving them common criteria. If we go by the same assumption as the LGBTwhatever acronyms, we might as well add a extra yellow stripe for asian and a white stripe for caucasians.