Battlefield V To Include Bad Company 2 Remaster, BR Mode for F2P
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Disgusting how
It would require effort on their part
I wasn't even a big fan of the SP for bad company or bad company 2, but the online was stellar. I don't know why they've totally failed to capture that feeling since.
Cos included in the price tag is gonna be a game I have no interest in touching, forcing me to cough up extra money for something I don't want. It's just plain unnecessary when you could easily separate them. Now that'd be pro-consumer, give the choice actually to the player. Surely I don't have to keep explaining the Modern Warfare 4 Remastered outrage over and over again.
The more I think about this though, the more this rumour feels likely in my eyes.
DICE have said they haven't actually worked out what people liked in the Bad Companies properly. It's a bit of a hard one to pin down I guess as they want to keep the Battlefield feel of large combined arms combat, but I think it was the smaller more focused maps that made Bad Company/ 2 so loved. They've brought across a lot of the mechanics and game feel and still haven't quite matched the fun people had in them after all.
As for the single player side, I guess they just don't have a good idea for a plot. They need something that can still be funny after all.
I think it was a mixture of the small scale and the destruction engine they used for it.
Another aspect I liked about it was the lack of prone, really brought down the number of campers.
I was a huge fan of BC's campaigns, especially the first one. Just something about it felt right.
I'm tired of all the stuff they're doing with Battlefield, now. Give me more Bad Company, please.
The game just got delayed till November. Could it be happening?
Probably moved it to November because they were already getting assfucked in presales by the games it was releasing near before. They don't wanna go up against RDR2.
Wow what a disgusting marketing tactic, free stuff.
Stop post
Bundling shit people don't want together isn't free stuff.
The game did not increase in price, and more content was added. How would that not be free?
Yeah but not that it was going to be F2P
Let me spell it out for you since your brain seems intoxicated by marketing bullshit. Game is shit, some people don''t want it. Some people want the remaster of a not shit game. A remaster that would cost $30 now costs $60 because you need to buy a game you don't like or want to play. It's a bundle strategy and when some consumers see this, they complain because they have ten more brain cells than "BUT ITS FREEE?!?!".
You're an asshole, and you're terrible at communicating your really bad position.
I would form a proper rebuttal but honestly your post articulates my statement more clearly than I ever could.
movement acceleration was a lot lower in the BC series, so it felt like you were actually running while weighted down by your gear. this plus the lack of chokepoints meant that taking on more than you could chew actually punished you because it was more difficult to play the game like a twitch shooter korean esports pro hopped up on adderall
BF3 and 4 definitely play a lot smoother, but I like the different pace and feel of BC2 from other FPS's out at that time was what made it have such an impact on those who played it
If only i could be so eloquent at communicating my position as, "stop post" "you're an asshole" and the time honored tradition of referring to things you pay for as "free".
Calm down guys - you're treating these rumors as confirmed, nothing is set in stone
You pay for batlefield V. You get the BC2 remaster which probably would otherwise not exist for free as a bonus (yes, free).
Your argument would only make sense if people were clawing for BC2 remastered in droves, moreso than battlefield V, which they aren't.
Do you need this spelled out more clearly or can you wrap your +10 braincells around that one?
So what is the problem with Battlefield V? Gameplay looks great. Only thing I can see is having prosthetic arms and shit in WW2.
Apparently a few game modes are busted / unfun, and the bizzare robocop stuff you mentioned.
also they added free stuff
First of all, if you're paying for it, its not free. EA isn't a charity don't be this dumb. "free" is just a marketing term in this case, two for the price of one doesnt exist, the price is just half for each item bundled and you've been bamboozled so hard by marketing speak that you're literally arguing with people on the internet that something you pay for is free. Second of all, would not otherwise exist? They could easily release it as a standalone, cut the cost of making it out of the pricetag of battlefield V and let people purchase is separately, the point is that bundling it forces people who want either product to also get the other product they dont want, this makes EA more money, they aren't a charity, they are one of the most profitable video game companies in existance, they are nickle and diming you. Specifically, they are taking probably the most beloved game in the series that gets constant praise and bundling it with a game that's getting record low preorders to try to prop up low sales expectations.
There was already this controversy years ago with the cod remaster shit, like this is settled shit. You don't need to be aware of how this panned out last time to predict how it'd pan out this time but no instead you choose to be a literal "but its free!?" meme.
People dont want BC2 remastered, they want BC3.
Im sure there are still a few people here who also played BC2 still, its has a active community.
Atacama Desert is a strong independent map who don't need no more remasters yo.
I cant help but feel almost offended if this is what they are really doing.
But people are clawing for a BC2 remaster more than the shitshow that BF V is in the process of becoming. You can see it clearly in this thread that a lot of people would be more interested in buying a bc2 remaster than BF V (including me). A bonus in my eyes is adding something to a product that improves it (dlc or an expansion, not a completely different game). BC2 remaster is a seperate product that'd bundled with BF V because there's obviously not enough interest in BF V alone.
FP is an extremely small population and you'd be foolish to assume it represents a substantial number of consumers. The huge majority of consumers only really care about battlefield V, the remaster is something that's just tacked on.
It's probably not even a good remaster. It's glitter for their packaging.
I'm not sure about that, BC/2 is pretty much universally loved by the community. Granted, many, probably most consumers aren't part of the community, but not a "huge majority" either. And looking at the preorder numbers right now, I'd wager that the community has some weight behind it.
The only thing which will make me forgive DICE for their levels of unprofessionalism, would be Mod Tools with full access to code our own games on the Frostbite engine. Otherwise, fuck off.
It applies outside of fp aswell. BC2 is unanimously praised by game reviewers/critics and people from other online communities as one of the best battlefields ever made. Meanwhile V has dumpster pre-order numbers, numerous complaints from the community about the alpha/devcommunication and EA already has the general public and general media against them after the disaster that battlefront 2 was.
'The huge majority of consumers' means jack shit if there's a small amount of consumers. The point of a BC2 remake isn't to satisfy the people who are excited for V, it's to attract more consumers to V by bundling something in that actually gets them excited. If that wasn't the case they'd have no reason not to sell it seperately.
Sure there is. Consumers who would consider it value added to a purchase they were on the fence about. These consumers could either be fans of the original bc2 or ones who have never played it before.
doesn't necessarily mean those consumers would buy bc2 remastered standalone, and it gives EA license to shit out some half-baked mess and say "hey it was free" if people complain.
It's not about the consumers that care about V. They'll buy the game anyway. Consumers on the fence about their purchase that get convinced by BC2 being bundled are buying 2 games essentially. If EA would release BC2 as a half baked mess they'd would feel scammed and get a refund because 1 of their 2 games is shit.
And this still doesn't excuse not selling it standalone. They could still bundle it in AND sell it standalone. The only reason it's bundle-only is so they get people to buy the bundled package and make them pay for battlefield V even though they don't want it.
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