Kentucky teen arrested in feud over dress code protest T-shirt - Sensationalist Headlines

Come on man, exercise a little more critical thinking than the parents that are in the comment section of her aunt's Facebook post... You know full well she wasn't arrested for dress code.

Already explained this.

The density is dumbfounding. Im glad you're perfectly find about having police officers enforce detention for wearing a shirt the principle doesnt like in schools. Honestly you're endorsing an obviously terrible system that is being actively abused. This system is one of many that is part of the reason we have so many kids shooting up schools so good on you for defending the status quo, yay for shitty american school systems being shity and blaming the victim for adults abusing their authority!

It has nothing to do with the fucking shirt dude. The SRO got involved because she was being combative/aggressive/uncooperative/whatever. The cop being there at all is because she decided to fight. I don't want to repeat this again.

You're going to call OvB dense when you are still arguing that the officer arrested the girl for a dress code violation? Come the fuck on man. Then you somehow even go 100 steps further by equating what happened here as a catalyst for school shootings? THEN, you call it victim blaming? The girl wore the shirt in protest, was confronted about it, became aggressive enough to warrent the officer to be called in, after the dress code violation, and be escorted into ISS. Where she then kicked the officer. I could make a fortune off whatever you're smoking...

She got confronted for a minor thing, turned that into a bigger thing, and then made it an even bigger thing when the RSO got involved, and then made it a major thing on her own accord. That's what we know. Her original cause doesn't dilute the fact that it's her fault she got into this situation. No one was looking to throw a teenage girl into Juvvie that day. It's her actions that made it so. I gotta go to bed so I'm probably done here. Don't assault cop's and you'll probably never end up hurt by them.

You're both people who are seemingly okay with escalating a minor situation into abuse against children (i think sending a kid to juuvy for multiple days over something like this counts) as long as there's some bullshit appeal from authority excuse you can make up. Forgive me if i don't have the highest opinion of either of you, but the school system in america needs drastic reform, the behavior of all the relevant adults in this situation is unacceptable, and you're both dense as hell because yes, she was put in cuffs over a shirt and somehow still in complete denial. Im guessing you're both used to this kind of "schooling" but i assure you it's not normal to have police in schools to enforce detention and if you're at the point where treating children this badly is this normalized for you, holy fuck.

Like, I can't believe I have to defend not assaulting cops. Don't do that. IF you do that you are an idiot.

I've just read the article and I may have missed the part, but where does it mention that she broke the dress code twice? I've only found the part where her mother complains about the parents not being informed about the policy change; Isabella’s mother, Theresa Rucks, told the outlet that parents were not informed of changes to the dress code for the 2018-2019 school year prior to the start of classes. Rucks alleges that the new rules ban “exposed shoulders” and “see-through white clothes.” So, were protest clothes banned prior to this or was it a recent change? Because if they knew that protest t-shirts were forbidden then why would they have one made for their daughter? Honestly, if I missed the part, please do let me know. I would definitely understand her frustration; you break the dress code, you wear a piece of clothing that displays your opinion of the said dress code but doesn't violate it and then you are told that you're breaking the dress code again. At that point, I think I'd get a bit loud as well, because such situation would make me feel very helpless and frustrated. Not sure I'd be kicking people in the shins like her, but then again, you're having a really bad day, you've just been handcuffed and when you want to call your parents they try to take your phone away... Also, just to clarify, I do understand that she wasn't arrested for breaking the dress code.

It seems to be that they had the initial dress code violation that caused all this. That's 1. And then the school would've considered the protest shirt as a dress code violation for being a distraction. That's 2. That's probably why she was confronted the second time. Had she not fought back she probably would've just gotten an in school suspension and then life goes on.

"Im a cop and this kid kicked me in the shin after i locked her in a room with handcuffs for wearing a shirt that questioned our authority, so i arrested her and sent her to juvy, now they'll never get into a good school haha i have fun ruining lives. Boy what a stupid kid, if they dare question my authority again i'll make sure to provoke them even more next time, maybe i can get them expelled, they deserve it for defending themselves after all and not letting me grab their phone out of their pocket while i already have them restrained. At least i'm legally justified because thats all that matters and its not like we're in dire need of reforms or anything and driving kids crazy with abuse isn't leading to a shooting epidemic or anything."

You're making a lot more assumptions than I am at this point.

Late as this, but yes, teachers are meant to break up fights between students. I've only ever heard of "security" in schools in America. It's really weird and scary-sounding tbh.

Hell, in Czech Republic, whenever there is any trouble, the teacher brings the troublemakers to the principal's office, once they're there, the principal either tells them off or calls their parents OR if it's something a bit more extreme, the student gets suspended or kicked out of the school. Obviously, if any drugs or weapons are found, the police gets called, but that is pretty rare... unless your school's in some shit part of the country.

The point is that i've been saying that this isn't an acceptable way for schools to operate because it allows that example situation to occur unchecked. This system is core to the cycle of abuse and mental health that's plaguing american schools, it isn't neccasarry and it shouldn't be defended. Other countries and even other districts and schools in the US do it way better without needing cops messing with people at school over non-law violations. if a kid is running around the halls kicking people, then it makes sense and if they do this frequently yeah, thats what juuvy is for, but thats not what happened. She was handcuffed and arrested for the dress code violation, being handcuffed is an escalation of force. Imagine the situation from the perspective of a child, you know you've done nothing wrong and someone is putting restraints on you, if our laws made sense that's easily self defense and you're supposed to defend yourself. Putting a cop in this positon is a way to intentionally manipulate and punish kids who would otherwise defend themselves in a situation of abuse. Yes, handcuffing a child for a dress code violation (or for "refusing to comply" with the dress code, which is the same thing) is child abuse and/or an unlawful arrest. The difference is, cops in the US above the law when it to self defense, if a cop wants to arrest you it doesn't matter what you've done, you're supposed to comply and contest it later. But thats the problem with putting cops in schools, there is no contesting it later, there is no justice system, and again in real life arbitrary school teachers cant order a cop to arrest you because you're not following policy. At worst, you get escorted out of the building if you broke an establishment's dress code and really badly want you to leave, so expecting kids to put up with this arbitrary bullshit is unreasonable. Even outside of school you're not going to be getting handcuffed for minor infractions, you just get handed a ticket or citation, actual escalation to handcuffs and use of force is absurd. Frankly, you shouldnt be in education if you need to handle a dress code violation with physical force, this is an educational institution, be smart, just let them go to class and say they're going to get docked grades or whatever, discuss the policy more with their parents, you know, reach an understanding instead of escalating the situation. Heck, maybe consider listening to whatever they're protesting before going right to force. The only reason to actually do this is because your feelings were hurt by the shirt questioning your authority and you're trying to amp up the punishment. Basically, schools should be a safe place for kids, and having cops handcuffing them for wearing the wrong shirt (or because they refuse to change shirts and become """"noncompliant"""", which again is the same thing) is not that.

You just wrote this, and you're calling other people dense?

This is such a disingenuous argument its not even funny. The girl wasnt sent to Juvy over a shirt, she was sent to Juvy because she assaulted a police officer.

why's her shirt say go back to the 1920s when that was the decade of the flapper

I didnt say she got sent to juuvy over a shirt, she did get arrested over a shirt you buffoon, then the school and officer intentionally escalated the situation until they were allowed to send her to juvy. The order of events is this Wears protest shirt -> Refuses to not wear protest shirt -> Handcuffed and detained by a police officer (i call this arrested where i come from, maybe you have a different definition) for refusing to change clothes -> officer attempts to prevent her from contacting parents by taking her phone -> dickhead gets kicked in the shin -> double arrested, juvy. The problem is steps 3 and 4, and arguably 6 because this is would clearly be self defense if it was anyone but a cop . You shouldnt be arrested because a teacher arbitrarily orders it, then the officer is using a loophole to deny her contact to her parents by not taking her to jail, but using handcuffs to take here to school detention where apparantly you have less rights than jail because at least in jail you get a phone call.

She wasn't smart to kick a school resource officer, but Tinker vs. Des Moines and followup cases established that expression in school that's not obscene and expressed in a manner that's not likely to cause much disturbance is protected speech, so this issue shouldn't have existed to begin with. They do not have any right to silence her opinion on the dress code.

If every infraction isn't met with unchecked physical force how will America's schools churn out bootlicking worshippers of the money death cult as intended? Authority is truth, and critical thinking must cease to apply as soon as it concludes the fat man with the badge and the gun is in the wrong.

they tried to prevent a basic right that is guranteed to pupils all over the country and she responded in defence of her rights, she should not even be near getting in trouble.

From what I've read of the article, she broke the dress code once. Nothing in the article details how the protest shirt broke the dress code. The principal was just being a prick.

Honestly one (of the many) thing(s) that weirds me out about US schools is the security. Why does a school campus need security guards? I even went to a high school in Brooklyn once, and they had fucking metal detectors. Never seen anything like it in Denmark.

Would you believe that America isn't nearly as great of a country as you have been lead to believe? Poorer areas suffer drug problems, which fuels gang problems locally and elsewhere, further fueling drug and violence problems abroad.

The fact that a pupil even risks getting handcuffed in school confounds me. And you seem to assume that all the blame lies with the child, when the real fucking stupid thing is that the principal is stopping her because of her shirt. And being "uncooperative" and "loud" as a kid doesn't mean you should be put in handcuffs, that's literally retarded. Sure, it was only when she was "assisting arrest", but A) Why are you arresting someone for being loud and uncooperative and B) You're escalating the situation, remove yourself and let the person chill out. Using force is such a ridiculous not-okay thing to do, especially to a kid - in psychiatry (here in Denmark), for example, using force is only allowed if the patient is an actual danger to others or themselves (or if they're doing substantial damage to property), and even then it's a pain in the ass from a judicial perspective for the doctors. And you're telling me that putting a kid in handcuffs is a-okay, and really shouldn't be questioned? The actual solution is to call their parents, and let the kid act out in the lobby for a while until they chill out or the parents arrive.

This is total bullshit. Nobody ever criticizes authority figures when they escalate the situation. The principal shouldn't have started a scene with her in the main lobby. It was a completely regular t-shirt with a political statement that was neither distracting nor obscene. It's protected speech. The resource officer shouldn't have physically tried to take her phone. I don't give a fuck what your policy is. If a student isn't being disruptive, then respect their space and their personal property. You're supposed to be the fucking adults, here. The student didn't escalate anything, everything that happened was because of her response to the school officials escalations. If they had just let her go to class, there would have been no problem. When we have a wannabe fascist like Trump as president I think it's more important than ever that students know their rights to express themselves.

Youre missing the step where she threw a tantrum which is why the resource officer was called in the first place. If she had just gone to detention without causing a scene, then none of this would have hapoened. It says right in the article that she was loud and uncooperative and wouldn't follow orders from the RO. Thats why she was cuffed in the first place. She wasn't arrested because the evil Stalinist school principal ordered it, she was arrested for refusing to go to detention. The officer wasnt preventing her from contacting her parents, this is such a disingenuous argument and I wish you would stop presenting it. The officer took her phone because its not allowed for her to have it during disciplinary punishments. When a school sends a kid to ISS or detention, they always callthe parents of the student to inform them. The school was not depriving her of any basic rights, quit touting that lie. This is a lie. So do UK schools not have lanline phones or are you just pretending here? The school did not bar her from any rights. If she wanted her parents contacted, they would have done so for her (which they probably already did), or she coukd have used a school phone to do so. "Barely" assault is still assault. She still attacked a RO so I don't know why youre trying to play this down. Yes the school's dress code is archaic and the principal shouldnt have been butthurt about her shirt, but she also shouldn't have reacted violently and refused punishment. If the school violated her right to free expression, then thats an open and shut lawsuit for her family. Her acts of violence pretty much invalidated her protest.

We're pretty much not a "third-world country" in that we have lots of money (in GPD and such), running water (some of it's even clean!), and ample food (for most, anyway). Most of the other problems you'd associate with some "third-world shit-hole" such as drugs, gang violence, crime, and corruption are aplenty here all the same, however.

People just don't want to spend their hard earned money to help other people with things like better schools and infrastructure.