Microsoft to allow enterprise customers get Windows 7 updates until 2023
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Idk I don't mind it. Max volume being default is very irritating, but I can appreciate how implementing Cortana into the first set up makes it more user friendly. Installing an OS can be intimidating for some people, and I don't think they should necessarily have to go get someone "tech smart" to help them with it. A digital assistant can smooth it over for people.
Ideally, the first thing Cortana could say is "would you like me to help, or do you got it?" and then just do it without her entirely. But it's really not "what the fuck were they smoking" bad or ... "hostile?" Really?
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Am i the only person who doesnt have any issues with windows 10?
I use Windows 10 and have only 3 problems with it.
I'd like the group policy editor back
The UI is a clusterfuck of different visual designs which needs to be standardized
If Windows 10 breaks and I need to reinstall, I have no disk and need to install Windows 7 and upgrade back, which is a pain in the ass and takes twice as long as it should
nah, Windows 10 is objectively fine, every generation of operating systems you hear the incessant nagging over trivial shit that you always get with Windows. people that wanna stick with 7 are cool. people that run 10 with no problems are cool. it's all cool all the way down as far as i'm concerned.
just don't be running windows 8 you FUCKER
Windows 10 is so bizarre because either people have no issues with it, or everything goes wrong all the time.
I personally really like windows 10 and have gotten acquainted with its features that I can't go back to 7 anymore. Its not perfect but its not the Vista some make it out to be.
I guess the word that best describes it would be "inconsistent"
funny way to spell "impending security threat"
Inpending 2023, sure.
Wait, why? Why can't you just use the media creation tool?
It should work I suppose but I've never had any luck with it beyond strictly using it to install directly on the target machine.
I've used the Media Creation Tool to create maybe a dozen install drives at this point. Never failed on me.
I didn't say Cortana is hostile. It's other things like
Re-enabling privacy settings I deliberately turned off, after updates (I defy you to tell me this is not hostile)
Announcing updates with a full-screen modal dialog saying "yes" and "later". Perhaps a missing 3rd option?
Occasionally scheduling restarts an hour from now, with a popup that doesn't show if you're playing a fullscreen game. Huh? Why's my computer turning off?
Fiddling with the perfectly good win + type + enter launching mechanism so that it launches a web browser if you mistype a program name. Bonus points: it's Bing with Edge, even though my default is Google with Chrome.
OneDrive doesn't shut up even though I didn't install it and have never used it. Even after disabling it at startup, there is a OneDrive icon in the notification tray which needs RegEdit to remove
Periodically re-add the windows store to my taskbar, just in case I forgot it existed
Trying to hide the offline sign in option on install so that people create Microsoft accounts
When I manually downgraded audio drivers on my Laptop, windows update pops up telling me they are out of date and automatically reinstalls the latest one. Doesn't seem to be any way of disabling this "feature" for manually installed drivers
Force users to reboot multiple times to install unsigned drivers, even if the "driver" is just a config file associating a certain VID/PID with winusb
Using P2P transfers for Windows Update to save money on servers, which wastes my data cap if I'm tethered to my phone
Removing the control panel before all of the settings in there got moved to Settings, even after years of having both
There are loads more. This was on W10 professional, and whilst none of this is earth-shattering, it adds up to a constant low-level pain in the ass on a machine I want to do my job on. It's gradually been pissing me off more and more
And I really don't think Cortana is more user friendly for Windows 10 setup. It's been streamlined to the point where most people are just typing in a password and a WiFi key, both of which would be a pain in the ass with speech-to-text. Anything more complex than that can't be done with the Cortana wizard anyway. It's just classic Microsoft "well people don't seem to like using this piece of software, so I guess we should shove it down their throats even harder"
My favourite OneDrive feature is how it showed up as a warning on Windows Defender making me think something was wrong but no, Microsoft just trying to sell you shit.
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I ran 8.1 + Classic Shell until AMD stopped making Radeon drivers, it was fucking great
To me, it doesn't matter how good windows 10 is. It's an operating system, and I want control over mine.
I'm not going to trust Microsoft not to break a program that I use in later updates, or force a feature that I do not want.
When I have to stop using Windows 7, I'm probably moving to Linux.
My current PC is running 2011-era hardware, has been upgraded from Windows 8 -> 8.1 to Windows 10 (as far as I remember), and I’ve basically had no issues. Of course that doesn’t negate other people’s problems, but being the IT guy in my social circle, I’ve yet to have to deal with any Windows 10-induced issues. Don’t see Windows 10 being much different than other windows releases to be honest.
I got hostile from:
But I likely misunderstood what you meant.
Pro edition only
Upgraded from Win7 home, and unless I'm mistaken windows 7 home did have it.
No version of Home has the group policy editor, you need to manually install it on 7, 8 and 10 if you're on Home.
Last version of Home to come with the policy editor was XP, even Vista stripped it.
If Microsoft's serious about this Fluent Design thing, why are window title bars still opaque except in Edge and maybe some other apps?
The difference is that Windows 10 has outright hostile "features" that you can't easily disable without the group policy editor (forced update restarts, cortana/web search results in task bar, etc). Granted, I downgraded back to 7 a long time ago, so I could be remembering wrong or things could have changed.
this needs to be a horror movie audio
You can configure updates to not forcefully restart.
You can actually enforce it to just install major updates.
You can completely disable Cortana and web search in taskbar.
You can disable web search results showing in your normal searches via start.
Oh, but only if you're not using Home Edition.
That's what I thought. Should be standard in all versions imo
Hey guys, remember how everyone circlejerked over that farcical "Windows Cycle" for about a decade? Y'know, after the previous "XP is the last good Windows ever" circlejerk from the mid-to-late 2000s got blown to smithereens?
I wonder what the new circlejerk will be, now that the consecutive Win8 and Win10 are both in the "sucks" category according to internet know-it-alls. Surely there has to be some new catchy, memetic "pattern" for pseudo-intellectuals to parrot relentlessly in tech forums.
I mean, it couldn't actually be that each Windows since XP has actually been better than the previous one, there'd be nothing to preen and act "enlightened" over about that.
if you're not paying attention to what edition of Windows you buy, you deserve it honestly. this is not much different than the variations between Home Premium and Professional in previous versions of Windows. if you know that you need these things and intentionally use a version that explicitly does not have those things....what the fuck are you even doing
I really like 10, but man does it feel like every part of it is designed to make you never forget that it's there.
The biggest gripe I have so far with Windows 10 isn't from using it, but from others in the house-hold who do use it.
For instance, my grandmother's PC and laptop have, for whatever reason, gotten into the habit of going "Hey we see that your volume is set to about half, surely you can't hear the Youtube vids you're watching, so we're just gonna crank that volume to 11 for ya".
She literally threw a keyboard in frustration.
I have read several articles and forum posts where people encountered similar problems, almost all of them with different solutions, which I tried them all, and none of them fixed the issue.
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