Airplane crew forgets to pressurize cabin, mild body horror ensues - Sensationalist Headlines

I feel like I am now too old to be a member of this forum.

Photo of one of the victims. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/237427/e450002f-5eae-454d-9b6c-9a344a3ad30f/image.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc82cy7ImRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCRx6wtejrQ

I still find it a very stupid comparison. The airplane vs car safety "fight" is so obviously biased towards airplanes due to how many repeated variables are thrown against the car that its kind of a loss of time to argue against airplanes being safer. Like, what did you even mean with that anyway? It's fucking obvious airplanes are safer. For starters, I'm not gonna fly the airplane myself. A trained and most likely respectable professional is. Just because of that, we have one huge point against the car. Then theres a fuckton of controls keeping the plane in the sky AND not ramming it into anything, which there isn't in a car, in which you can't really do a straight line from A to B, and so on and so forth. Hence why its a stupid comparison.

Christ, I've experienced the joy of bleeding out of most of my face from being on medication, and that was scary despite the fact it was expected. Having it happen almost spontaneously must be terrifying..

That isn't bias, that is just one thing being better than the other.

The point being made was that your average airplane trip will have less fatalities than your average car trip. There is no "fight" because airplanes win automatically. I'm not really sure what you're trying to say with this post.

Or just not really comparable, since they're different ways of transport, but whatever

i just find it pathetic to see the disregard in this thread for how aviation safety has pioneered some of the most important things in health and safety.. people need to get with the program and do their research.

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Because people don't actually know as much as they think they do. Oxygen was flowing to the masks, it just doesn't inflate the bag or anything. There was no announcement because there already was a fucking announcement before you left the ground. Cabin crew can't afford to baby every passenger in an emergency, and they won't risk their own lives and limb to help you specifically. They are not peanut and beer dispenensers, they're trained saftey officers and you'll be glad they're there if shit goes really wrong. They never broke 11,000 feet, so i don't think anyone was even at any risk even if they'd refused to put on a mask. There's significantly more air there than Denali, Mont Blanc or some other famous mountains.

I literally (non Merriam-Webster) don't know what you are saying.

It's not obvious to many people that you're safer in a plane, most people don't suffer panic attacks when they get in cars. It's a really unnatural thing to do. Fly along in a can at crazy speeds is a troubling scenario for anyone that doesn't know the statistics and are safe in the knowledge they PROBABLY won't die. I mean they used to think that if a train went fast enough your head would explode.

every fucking safety announcement literally says "in the event of loss of cabin pressure, oxygen masks will drop down". people think these things are some kind of joke or funny story.

You're also more likely to survive a car crash than a plane crash

you're more likely to die if you fall into lava than in you fall onto grass too. see i can make useful points too.

they are not arguing their psychological fear which is acceptable, they're arguing that plane journies are less safe. it's insulting really.

I'd rather take the abysmally low chance of dying an instant death over the abysmally high chance of paraplegia.

You also have to consider the fact that you have to attend training in order to become a pilot, and once you're employed, you undergo, with the rest of your crew, even more training on how to proceed during an accident to minimize the chance of death. "But Terrorism!!!". My uncle has worked at an airport for most of his life, and he's told me that, security wise, planes are extremely safe because of the amount of Air Marshals on planes now. You'd have to be a real cowboy in order to attempt to hijack a plane. At age 15, you begin lessons on how to drive. At 16, you're given a license. Anyone can learn, and anyone can buy a car. I'd trust a plane any day.

how many hooligan pilots are there vs. hooligan drivers?

LAWSUIT LAWSUIT!

I wouldn't start worrying about airplanes. Stuff like this happens very rarely considering there are over 100k flights every single day around the world. Yeah plane crashes are catastrophic and result in a lot of injuries and death when they occur, but the point is that it's just not very likely to happen, especially in the developed world. If you look at the big reputable first world flag carrier airlines, many of them have not had a serious incident in decades. I've experienced many close calls in cars/buses etc. over the years. Worst thing that ever happened to me on a plane was a bit of turbulence that almost spilled my coffee.

I think it's worth adding that most people will feel safer when they're the one driving the vehicle, regardless of how that actually effects their risk of accident

The permeability of your blood vessels is directly related to pressure. Mostly osmotic pressure, but combined with an decrease in atmospheric pressure you'd see an increase enough to cause bleeding in smaller capillaries that are very close to the surface of your body... Like your mucus membranes in your nose...

p sure you can have some effects of hypoxia at 11k feet

You can, a quick google search proves this. When Humans Fly High

not sure the plane limit to when you need oxygen though. suppose couple km? there's open doorless aircraft that go about 5000 feet without oxygen.

Where are you getting the idea that airplane accidents are often fatal? For example in 2016 there were 30 airplane accidents worldwide, with 139 deaths in total. One of those was a firefighter, not someone on board the plane. 133 of those deaths were caused by 2 crashes. 27 accidents without any casualties. So much for a 100% lethality rate. And look at United Airlines Flight 232. It suffered a catastrophic failure on the tail mounted engine with a loss of many flight controls as a result. It is one of the worst things that could happen to an airplane, and many people survived it. Out of the 285 passengers, 185 survived the crash landing. Just look at a video of the crash. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAiYkX-Woh0 2/3 of the people on this plane survived. And this is one of the worst things that could happen in a regular flight.

That is because you base your opinion on news headlines. Last year was the safest year in airplane travel ever. 2016 was a pretty bad year, and it still has a large survival rate for crashes with fatalities. Most news sites probably didn't write an article on Aeromexico Connect Flight 2431, which had an accident two months ago. The plane veered off during take-off and crashed into a field 460m beyond the runway. It completely burnt down. Everyone survived. Sure, there are accidents where a plane crashes into a mountain and no one survives, but that's kinda to be expected. You don't walk away from a head-on collision in a car travelling 200km/h either. Generally, so long as it isn't a crash like that, it's very unlikely to die. Just a few weeks ago a plane in Russia caught fire after overrunning the landing. The only fatality was an airport employee who died of a heart attack. Stressing over the "deadliness" of planes is probably more likely to kill you than an airplane accident.