You're Trash, Brock: Venom debuts to predictably bad reviews - Sensationalist Headlines

I really fucking hate reviewers like this lol "it wasn't pretentious thought-provoking oscar-bait, so I'm gonna have to rate you down" I don't think there's anything that pisses me off more about critics conduct today than "I really loved the movie, but I'ma give it a low score because reasons"

I came back from Venom. It was not the movie I wanted (I wanted something horror, like Brock being consumed by Venom and having to come to terms with what he's becoming), but I can't say I left the cinema disappointed. Fun movie, mediocre at its worst. Quite a few things didn't make sense, like how the Symbiotes are incredibly picky on who they can host, but half way through the movie they can just jump between bodies on a whim, or how an airplane is flying so incredibly close to a skyscraper. but nothing so bad that it deserves to be down there with Jack and Jill. Critics were being really dumb with this one.

they can jump bodies all day, they just didn't like those hosts so they ate their organs and bounced when the hosts died. Venom even mentions that he might eat Eddie's liver if he doesn't continue to like him at one point

That doesn't make any sense either. If they eat their hosts, THEY will die because they can't survive in the atmosphere of our planet. It would be IN THEIR BEST INTEREST to keep the host alive, not to kill them and then die.

Sure it does, they eat hosts they don't like from the inside until they find a match, and might eat them too if they find a better one. Riot does this quite a few times. The reason the one in testing died was because it was left unattended with no sustenance after eating the subject.

Sorry I don't agree. It is seriously dumb to kill the only chance you have at survival. And it wasn't just one of them, two of them died from killing their hosts and then not being able to do jack shit because of it. If they can learn English in mere seconds, they should be smart enough to not destroy their only chance at survival. And again, if they have to "find a match", then they wouldn't be jumping from body to body like they did later in the movie.

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Sorry not sorry. The big boys are talking. Go watch the movie if you wanna participate

If I tossed a mouse into a snake's cage, would it: eat it couple with it even though they're incompatible not eat it immediately because it doesn't know if it'll be fed again Eat it, obviously. then it would die when I don't feed it more, just like the symbiotes they neglect. There's a reason Eddie is eating so much. Also those guys weren't "their only chance for survival", they could literally SEE more fodder outside the windows. The people they ate from the inside were incompatible and only valuable as food to prolong them until they found a functional host.

That's completely different, because the snake doesn't understand our intentions, it just knows to eat. And a snake isn't a super being. Again, the symbiotes are smart, as shown multiple times in the movie (learning how to drive, talk, and how to use people to get what they want). If they eat their host, they die from oxygen deprivation. If they don't eat their host, they can survive inside the body, act as "if everything is ok", and then devour other people when they try to move or get near the inmates. They can survive being shot at, they can easily make their host incredibly strong and break through the glass, and feed on the number of scientists literally right next to them, but choose to eat their only chance of getting out and die.

Some people can enjoy bad movies, The Room is always my go to example for it it's a terribly made movie yet it's entertaining as fuck, Venom is pretty bad too

Is it possible venom fanboys jumped in to inflate the audience score?

If you mean people who are longtime fans of the character, I feel like they might have an even bigger negative reaction than a critic would

https://twitter.com/getFANDOM/status/1048271618244374528

Is it possible people who want to fuck venom jumped in to inflate the audience score? fix it for ya.

I was actually curious about what some of the top critics in there had to say about other Marvel movies, and on the way to do that I noticed a lot of them gave 10s on Gaga's movie..

What in the god damn is with this turf war going on between movies that have literally nothing in common nor share an audience.

Gaga's movie seems like the kind of thing made to get 10's from fans and nothing else anyway.

It’s unoriginal Oscar bait to the point that it’s literally a remake of an Oscar film from the 50s

I almost never trust the critic score. If anything I take a combination of the two. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/554/9fc455a6-14d3-42a0-aecb-e4b49bd54603/Annotation.png

Not a good example. That audience score was influenced by mass bot account spamming by that dumbfuck alt-right facebook page "Down with Disney's Treatment of Star Wars and its Fanboys," which infamously proclaimed that Disney was turning Poe and Luke gay.

Cinemascore's poll is B+. If it hits the projected numbers this weekend, it will have smashed the all time October even when adjusted for inflation. It might even come close to Fall in general, which is held by It (September 2017). No one is expecting to beat It though, but it's possible it could come in second, still impressive.

Sigh. Why did Venom have to be Suicide Squad 2.0. At least with DC, the fate of part of an additional cinematic universe wasn't on the line. If Sony gets to build their shitty cinematic universe, we're never gettting Spiderman Homecoming 3, which is almost certainly being planned as the onscreen debut of the Sinister Six. Instead, we'll get a dumb-as-fuck incarnation of the Six in Sony's universe, like the idea they had for the Sinister Six and Spidey teaming up in the Savage Land to fight dinosaurs.

That's really not true, Venom wants to be inside of MCU. Infact, when it came right down to it, Feige was more opposed to integrating these movies than Sony was. There was a pseudo-feud because Pascal kept on hinting at plans to make Venom part of the MCU like the Netflix shows, but Feige kept on retracting it. There was some back and forth on it publicly until Pascal said: "First, there is Spider-Man happily in the place where he’s supposed to be which is in the Marvel Universe. I think everything comes from that. This is the signpost, the tentpole, the signature and… the other movies that Sony’s going to make, in their relationship to this [MCU] Spider-Man, take place in this world. Although you’re not going to see them in the Marvel Universe, it’s in the same reality." To which Feige finally gave up and said she gave "the perfect answer". I think Kevin's just waiting to see if they really want to integrate, Sony definitely does. Amy has already tried to pass them off as adjuncts, and they edited the movie to PG-13 to heighten their chances of getting accepted. I definitely don't believe that Venom's success or failure would play into Spider-man at all. They've already got their plans and place, a healthy relationship, and presumably contracts, and since this is the mouse we're talking about, pretty strong ones most likely.

Of those three, i can see Silver Sable working if they get a competent team together, and Mobius maybe could work too but the whole vampire craze has come and gone, but Black Cat? She's like Spider-Mans Catwoman but without any of the story potential that the Gotham City setting brings. I dont think she's even had a mini-series on her own, the closest being The Evil That Men Do, which Spider-Man was still in, and Claws, which was her teaming up with Wolverine. Silver Sable at least has somewhat of a story with Symkaria, Sable International, the Wild Pack, and having had a history of solo outings in some form, so being teamed up with her i could have seen maybe working, but on her own that sounds like a recipe for disaster. I will say after hearing it was on the table for Amazing Spider-Man, i kind of want that Kraven movie, have him hunt down some of the animal hybrid characters from Spider-Mans rogues like Vermin, Stegron, Swarm, and Man-Bull or something. Its weird as shit but honestly might work if you really do Kraven straight and include his fucking bizarre backstory, and if they do it right it could set him up as a dangerous villain for a future Spider-Man movie. The reality of the situation is Sony is never going to relent on those rights, and for the foreseeable future working with Marvel is the smartest thing to do, so i dont see any reason to be worried about the MCU films.

I forgot to mention that in the comics (Planet of the Symbiotes) Venom is "special" in that unlike the others he prefers constant symbiosis, whereas the others prefer to bleed hosts dry, but this is already mentioned when he explains that the other symbiotes will eat the planet's population to extinction. It's also why Venom says he's a loser on his planet, in PotS he's imprisoned by the others for this aberrant belief. Carlton Drake simply assumes they'll couple for mutual benefit. The one that was actually interested in that got away with Brock.The others, as mentioned in the film, just want to consume the planet dry and move on.

Oh yeah those four are big risks. Venom is pretty much easy money.

just came back from Venom I liked it.

Also watched it yesterday night, I enjoyed it. The humor wasn't as bad as the trailer, a lot was changed from the trailer but yeah my only complaint is they jumped through a lot really fast.

Welp, time to grab the comic buds and see if Venom was worth it. Even if it is bad it looks to be fairly entertaining imo.