• Leave no dark corner - Social Credit in China
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I mean you don't have to go far to see this result in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsndKkasfI
why is this guy's voice so condescending?
As useful as it may seem, a system like this should exist no matter what a country's administration is like. A system like this gives a handful of people incredible power over the lives of every individual in the country with no way to opt out. The risk of misuse for criminal or political purposes is too great even in a reasonably functioning democracy.
The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms.
Apparently Black Mirror is actually popular in China and they call instances of weird technology Black Mirror moments.
That's the problem really. If you give anyone data they immediately misuse it. Outside of the governmental threats, there's also the fact that this kind of system is perfect for finding targets for criminal activities and how it will quickly halt social mobility for anyone but the exceptional. People born to a lower social caste would essentially be stuck there, virtually an irredeemable untouchables class that is ripe for exploitation. If this system is implemented, I foresee that China might elect to create areas that are similar to the Special Economic Zones system; areas descrutinised by the social-network, essentially, Special Social Zones where your interactions aren't rated, or aren't rated as closely. Pretty much Las Vegas style reserves for descrutinised economic/social activity. It's too economically profitable for them not to implement.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/229956/98df547f-b54d-4038-bae0-7a3f36106a54/Daedalus_infolink.jpg
Either they'll be rooted out and destroyed as undesirables, or be indoctrinated to hate their parents for giving them a bad start, and shown that the best way to increase their social credit is by becoming loyal members of the CCP.
Perhaps they'll force the children to go to a state-run boarding school whether the indoctrination is turned up to 11 or they'll simply take the children away from their parents.
what makes this different to social security number?
Thinking about it more, you could essentially make people with low social scores do whatever you want them with the promise of improving said score. I mean, what if they need more people for the military? Just hover points above their head.
A facebook post can ruin your extended family's life with this system.
The street CCTV when fully operation will take note of pedestrians and drivers breaking road rules for example, and mark you down even if a crime has not been committed. Who knows how far they will take this, dropping litter, even walking past litter might even ruin your score if they so choose. The AI is pretty much done afaik.
Credit score is based on how you behave financially. This system is based on how you behave period.
and "Hated In The Nation" too.
The issue is any system like this in place will be abused. Governments as a whole gravitate towards becoming more and more authoritarian in general over time. And when that happens you get far more grabs at power. The risk simply isn't worth it.
So the same as being born to a rich family or a poor one, just with a different currency It's an interesting concept, and I like parts of the idea and hate others. I'd prefer it to be a bit more literal and like Black Mirror's episode to be honest. If you're a cunt your whole life to everyone you deserve to have a lower social score, but you shouldn't be born with a low one
Remember how Christopher Hitchens once said North Korea seemed like it was intentionally modeling itself after 1984? Well, China's taking it to the next level.
China, once again taking wonderful advancements in communication technology, and immediately turning them towards further enhancing their dystopian status. Guess they got tired of having a society without class structures. After all, what's the point of civilized society if you can't have giant slums of people who have no choice but to be destitute.
China has been on quite an upswing but part of me wonders if their relatively fragile system could withstand an inevitable downturn of either societal or economic change, or both. These things are inevitable, China's one child policy is a ticking time-bomb of older people getting into pension age and not enough young people following through. Pair that with the fact that China's economic stats are so heavily altered and ballooned up they don't trust it themselves, and some talk is going around that the next crash might just be around the corner. Citizens can be complacent if there is an economic upswing and rising prosperity, but when it comes to times that threaten this new standard of living, things could get ugly. Only time will tell I guess.
The Chinese are cheaters and liars. I have faith in them to play this system like a game and circumvent it and it'll blow up in the government's face when the citizens are using the government's own system against them.
No wonder they banned Psycho-Pass in China lmao
I 200% believe that people will take bribes to influence numbers.
The Chinese government is a criminal organization so it's only fitting. Harvesting organs, death penalty busses, social credit, murdering political dissidents, burying African countries in debt.
...Uh, in the Black Mirror episode the cunts rose to the top, and the weighting their votes had because of that turned advancing in life into Suck Up To The Cunt: The Game. The only reasonable characters in the entire episode are those with poor ratings because they refused to try gaming the system like the vapid sociopaths higher up.
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