Huge reduction in meat-eating ‘essential’ to avoid climate breakdown - Sensationalist Headlines

Do you remember the amount of opposition New York had against the "soda tax"? People will fight vehemently against any sort of meat tax. A good number of people here were even against it.

As long as I have cheese and greasy potato-based food I'll probably be fine without meat.

Careful, your poutine is showing.

holy shit I didn't even realize I was setting myself up for that one

Honestly my folks' memory is better than mine; we hardly eat steak and burgers, like at all. Today will be the 2nd time we have had beef this month. If we had gotten any lower than that we'd be vegetarians. This on top of our garden I think we can be set with doing less meat if need be for the environment, if not for our collective health as well.

Then sell it to voters as a tax against the producers. The cost will hit the consumers at the end of the day regardless, even if they don't realize that it will.

I've actually started eating a lot of Kangaroo nowadays, as that's purely produced via pest hunting and not conventional farming. Pretty much indistinguishable from a nice cut of beef, the only thing I feel guilty about is how much chicken I eat. Being a jobless student, it's pretty much the cheapest and healthiest source of protein available to me, even if I'd like to switch over to a "more" vegetarian diet.

You will find that cans of beans and legumes will give you more nutrients and protein by the dollar, cheap as fuck and easy to cook with since it comes in a can. Vegetarian chilli You don't have to worry about the herbs and shit if you don't want to, but it's literally chuck in onion, garlic, chilli, veggies, lentils and beans, canned tomatoes/passata and there you go that's 4 meals. Chilli freezes really well so you can make a shit ton and leave it in the freezer and heat up for a meal down the road.

Do you remember the Affordable Care Act being branded as Obamacare? With people covered by ACA cheering on the death of Obamacare. There will be PACs created to fight against the "meat tax", branding it as "big government telling you what to eat."

a lot of it requires a cultural shift unrelated to whatever vegan agenda is out there. people need to be more aware of their habits and the global affects they have, and one step is the unnecessary consumption of meat and the industries it supports. we should be weighing the pros and cons in our heads and start looking beyond what personally satisfies us, and start setting habits that benefit everyone else if it's within our means.

That's great. Chicken and fish are my favorite meats anyway, and with my IBS issues, it's also the only one that I can consistently eat and never have any issues. I pretty much eat beef only once a week, if that, and it's only when I go out to get a hamburger. I almost completely avoid pork, because its the hardest on my system by far. I don't even eat ham sandwiches anymore, just turkey. Actually, the whole family has never been huge beef or pork eaters - its usually twice a week at the most, and the second time is almost always just a little ground beef in spaghetti. Mom has so many different recipes for chicken that we always have it at least once every week, plus a second and sometimes even third day just for leftovers. And we only have pork every so often - either ham or bacon, and not necessarily every week. This is largely due to the fact that we're not particularly well off, so my parents don't waste money on the most expensive meats. It's always what mom can get on sale, and that's usually chicken.

In all honesty, I've found it's really not that much of a lifestyle change to cut a lot of meat, especially red meat, in your diet down consistently. Some people have beef or pork every meal of the day, and if you think that you're going from bacon in the morning, a ham sandwich for lunch and something like a burger or pepperoni pizza in the evening, making the active decision to only eat meat for one of those meals means you're instantly cutting how much meat you're eating by two thirds. Just have some oatmeal or fruit for breakfast and a salad or pasta for lunch and you're pretty much set to massively cut back on how much meat you're consuming on a daily basis.

I agree that it makes an insignificant impact on the problem as a whole, but the increased popularity of vegetable based diets is a good way to procure early adopters of change.

nobody asked

Ive already started eating only white meat since the UN report came out, should I stop altogether?

lab meat needs to hurry the fuck up

Are you okay?

No point in continuing a pointless exchange like this.

Jouska is obviously a bit dim but he brings up a valid point, there are types of people that need meat in order to sustain their lifestyles. I mean, they could probably cut out meat entirely, but it'd be really difficult and an undue hardship for them

I'm down with eating less beef but meat altogether? Screw that. Chicken / Turkey / pork bacon are too delicious.

Yeah I mean it's only the entire planet that's at stake. Poor body builders.

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/236793/fa41d68f-9d02-4b67-8aac-1b1734259440/image.png Come and get 'em, obama.

This 71% shit is basically a meme at this point.

isn't it true tho

I mean, both are true though. Yes, everyone should do all of that to the best of their ability AND Corporations should be held responsible and forced to stop shitting on the planet

It is, but usually the people who mention it conveniently ignore that their lifestyle and habits create the demand for fossil fuels, which is why those companies emit so much CO2 in the first place. By being smarter about managing your lifestyle's negative externalities, you lower that demand. It is simply not possible to lower carbon emissions to reasonable levels without changing our lifestyles. Those people don't seem to realise that it is a requirement, not optional.

I'm not sure how many people read the article in full but it also does endorse taking your actions beyond just personal changes, Reducing meat consumption might be achieved by a mix of education, taxes, subsidies for plant-based foods and changes to school and workplace menus, the scientists said. But a global change is needed, he said: “I think we can do it, but we really need much more proactive governments to provide the right framework. People can make a personal difference by changing their diet, but also by knocking on the doors of their politicians and saying we need better environmental regulations – that is also very important. Do not let politicians off the hook.” It can not be understated how important it is to put people into power who will push for stronger environmental practices.

Most of the time it tastes good is because you season it with plants 🤔

You'd be surprised how much livestock effects the methane production. And also Methane is far more powerful as a green house gas in comparison to regular Co2 pollution.

People in third world countries eat a sustainable amount of meat to begin with. The Western world are the ones who consume excessive amounts. Nice job, failing to read a debunk of your argument three posts above yours: