Huge reduction in meat-eating ‘essential’ to avoid climate breakdown - Sensationalist Headlines

Your turkey sandwich creates the demand. It's a little annoying how many people here are attempting to shift the blame to someone else. It's not a one sided problem. "Do as I say, not as I do," is a criticism I see often from Republicans, but am also seeing a lot of here.

You know that meet consumption actually increases alongside wealth in third world countries, right? Eating meat is mostly a western value to convey wealth, because you can actually afford to eat meat. Shits expensive to produce.

I'm slowly cutting down my meat consumption, I don't think I'll ever go full vegetarian or vegan but there's no need for steak every night.

I generally think people eat too much. The meals that are being offered at cafeterias here are way too large, I personally could easily go through the day with half as much. Also, I'd wager about 4/5 restaurant menus in this country contain meat. You get a pitiful amount of variety if you try to abstain from it, and for someone who doesn't have the time to cook at home, there's really not much you can do.

We don't need nearly as much meat as we eat. Three times a week is more than enough. That's less than half of what we currently eat. This is a non argument. Read my posts, for fuck's sake. Read the current fucking page.

It may be sensationalized, but the research and the current situation behind it are supported by science. And if someone tries to push that 100 companies-research, here's is interview/conversation with the person who compiled that list, and urges that people make changes in consumption: www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/10/12/17967738/climate-change-consumer-choices-green-renewable-energy It of course also points out that companies, too, must take responsibility and kept accountable. Goverments and leaders must take action, creating national plans, legislations and directing funds in manner that it is needed. Companies need to take responsibility and take binding steps towards sustainable development. And finally, consumers need to change their habits, learning to eat more sustainably. These all influence eachother, so it is imperative all of them are changed. It is especially important in countries where the other levels are lagging - in infrastructure that is more intensive and less sustainable, those decisions can make a bigger splash - and just consider that if people would accept such lifestyles, these lifestyles would then most likely to be passed to their children, and so forth. Step towards it with optimism even if outlook is gloomy, make changes to change your life more sustainable.

I'm fine with giving up meat, at least until grown meat becomes easily available. There's always fish.

It's not even body builders guy. I just work out, I'm not trying to be a giant. A full vegetable meal does not satiate me after a work out. you say "Oh well that's too bad" but working out and exercise in general are fucking vital to your health and ignoring that, or mocking those that want to fuel their bodies properly for physical activity is just dumb.

Moving forward, I'm going to try to limit beef or pork to once every two weeks, and I'm going to urge my family to cut down on meat consumption with me. I'm also cutting out candy and sugary things entirely, mainly ice cream. I'm worried about my family being on the keto diet though during this period, not sure if that's sustainable when cutting out meat...

Reduction on meat consumption is a good idea, but even better idea is to not buy meat products from countries that cut down rainforrest for cattle. Biggest one being Brazil. Me though? I buy domestic meat when i can choose. I don't eat a lot of meat anyways so i'll continue until it becomes rationed. Honestly i don't think meat alone is the essential key to curb climate warming/change. And the real way to make people change their habits is by law and governance. If you think you can make everyone environmentalist by talking you are living in a dream world.

I rarely eat beef these days. I do more cicken and turkey for everything.

It's not. You can not do a vegan keto diet.

As far as I'm aware, Japan is basically the embodiment of this. Their diets are fairly light on meat. The livestock are kept in MUCH better conditions than other industrial countries, and as a result their meat is much higher quality as well.

I mean I'm a cheap and lazy fuck when it comes to everyday food, so most of my meals consist of beans, pasta, rice, mushrooms, lettuce, and as of right now, my own tomatoes. On the other hand I burn three liters of gasoline every weekday by driving 60km to and from work. Constant consumption of meat is a problem sure, but what I personally find a lot more cancerous is the (at least from my perspective) recent trend of wear and tear, I.E people just having to have the latest phone and buying a new one every other year or so, or the vast majority of people who, instead of fixing their broken stuff, just throw it away and buy something new, which in turn is spurred on by huge companies such as Microsoft, who makes their devices near fucking impossible to get into, or Apple, who'd rather lie right in your face to make you throw your six month old device away and buy a new one rather than just fixing your current one.

good to know you're a literal sociopath

Yeah of course you're not satisfied when you're not eating any carbs

If you think Carbs are the only way you can satiate yourself, or are even an optimal way to satiate yourself in all situations, you'd be wrong. I eat carbs, but I try and avoid bread and other processed carbs because while filling, they're nutriotionally poor and do little for your health. Look, I get that you're a vegan/vegetarian advocate, I get that you'll refuse to admit that some people aren't going to thrive on the diet you prescribe to them. But that's a reality, you can choose to ignore or not.

Bread is full of nutrients, just not white. Same goes for rice. Always stick to wholemeal/brown. This war against grains is so silly.

I eat less than 20 g of carbs a day. Carbs are a poison that only make you want more. People need less carbs, not more, why do you think Western countries are so fat

Farking hell I can't compete with this logic, especially considering the amount of rice and other grains people in third world countries consume and they only become fat when they start consuming sugary drinks, processed foods and increase their meat intake.

making the assumption that one diet fits all is my problem

Everyone should eat different amounts based on their body size, but apart from that we're all pretty similar. I don't see why, apart from having a condition such as coeliacs or type 1 diabetes, or an allergy to a certain food or preservative, we can't all eat a similar plant-based diet. Unless you mean these allergies and conditions we all have are different and that's why one diet doesn't fit all?

Have you ever heard of "Gut Biome"? Not everyone can eat the same diet. You have never acknowledged that some people do not thrive on vegetarian, or vegan diets. I am not advocating for meat every meal. You are advocating for the total removal of meat from the diet. I am simply making the argument that not everyone is adapated to the same diets, and assuming, as you clearly do, that everyone in the world can just fill up on grains and complex carbs and call it a day is wrong, and no, I'm not even speaking about allergies. Those should be considered as well.

Rice, an Eastern staple, is carbs too.

I'm talking about myself - I live in a fishing village so if I ever crave a non-vegetarian dish that's a great alternative to going to the supermarket. There are regulations in place in Nova Scotia that prevent overfishing and as someone who works in the industry I can assure you it is heavily monitored by the Department of Fisheries.

The ocean as a whole is overfished. Globally.

Calories in / calories out is the only thing that truly matters.

I never feel full when I eat carb heavy. High fat diet is how I've stayed under 1400 calories a day for 3 months

I don't know much about how gut biome can affect your body's digestion of grains, it seems to be something that needs more research and would be interesting to read more about. I'm just pointing out the ideal situation for the environment, which is to reduce our consumption of animal products as much as possible. If everyone eats plant-based meals 2 days a week, that's a 25% reduction in consuming animal products, which is amazing and I'm extremely happy with. If that needs to be the goal to get the most people on board, people should aim for that at the very least.