Neon and corporate dystopias: why does cyberpunk refuse to move on?
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I was going to point this out too.
The younger and poorer you are, the more likely you are going to interact with people who really do look like citizens of a diet cyberpunk dystopia.
Alternative fashion is really popular in the circles I frequent- and for a lot of people they literally adopt the style for reasons commonplace in cyberpunk stories. They feel that they have no real agency in society, can't afford to chase popular trends even if they cared for them, and invariably get passed over for jobs that would enforce a strict dress code anyway, so they have turned to self expression as way of taking some control over their lives.
I'm not even kidding when I say that for a lot of people I know, all that's missing is the cyberware lol.
I keep telling people that we are already living in a cyberpunk dystopia just without the chrome.
take that back, but just wait until more people trying cyberized themselves in near-future insanely and hilariously every part of body for less to no good reason.
V for Vendetta was close to that.
Wow you live close to Picus headquarters that's so cool
that's the number 1 mistake people make about cyberpunk when criticising it
Cyberpunk isn't an aesthetic. it's a set of ideas about where society might go and what that would mean for people, and the different aesthetics emerging from theses ideas are completely surface level.
It's an aesthetic only to people who think Blade runner and GITS looks cool and dont look past that into the themes of theses worlds, and the substance behind thoses visuals.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/297971/2e075f9c-3170-4f3f-8e7e-f304f5901231/image.png
This is a screenshot from DE Mankind Divided, a game which plot and themes that is unarguably cyberpunk. And the main hub is mostly real world prague with a few futuristic buidlings and urban details here and there. There's modern city centers that look way more futuristic, corporate and dystopian than this science fiction game set in the near future.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/297971/e87e3688-e73f-4f06-b010-b6569fde987f/image.png
The intro of the game is set in Dubai and the most futuristic looking building in the skybox is the Burj Khalifa. A building that was completed 8 years ago. And this is a 2 years old game.
Yes that game had obvious writing and pacing issue and a troubled production, but it doesnt take away from what theyve done visualy with it, and how much they paid attention to the real world when building their vision of the future. If that works for you or not tonaly is up to you.
Saying major cyberpunk productions arent evolving from Blade Runner aesthetic is just not paying enough attention to the genre as it is today.
I was talking more about using untested experiments and injecting yourself with CRISPR in your garage to cure your herpes.
I approve of the amateur cybernetics as long as it's not too extreme and done by someone who knows what they're doing, but taking a random magnet and putting it in your finger is probably not ok.
There's also Mr Robot, which most people agree is cyberpunk even though the setting is literally just modern day New York
May as well throw in Person of Interest as well. The synopsis is basically what modern day China is currently doing anyway.
Dude, just slap some Orcs and Shamans and it'd be a fucking Shadowrun Campaign.
Equally Accurate aesthetic of what our future might look like is not necessary to convey ideas.
For example, Zootopia is an animated film about animals coexisting in a modern society. Complete fantasy but tells a story that is very relatable to our own lives, and conveys messages that are real.
That wasn't my point at all
I was responding to the claim that cyberpunk is an aesthetic, and that it's unrealistic and irrelevant to what's happening in the real world.
My point was that current mainstream cyberpunk franchises have evolved long ago beyond Blade Runner's aesthetic, that there isn't a set "cyberpunk dystopian aesthetic" that all of them share, and some of them are making a point of reflecting real world architectural trends of this decade. Not all of them though. Cyberpunk 2077 doesnt give a damn about the architecture of Dubai and makes its own points with its environnement design.
I guess but from my point of view, Even they doing 'unofficial' experiments just stake of their Biopunk-based Transhumanists or futurist ideological views. It look there nothing wrong to them so far (and they may get a temporary placebo effect as well)?
But for amateur cybernetics, well It may lean into body horror territory more unintentionally (since some them may damaged skin and messing up skin tissues) as showing some pictures to kinda help me why I'm not fan of Cyberpunk anyway.
(Please may warn of mildly NSFW)
https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/northstar-640x353.jpg
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That's pretty gore, can you link to it instead
Ok, But still the point anyway.
As I said above, it's a terrible idea and an easy way to fuck up your limb for good. I cant imagine your hand working very well when you butcher it with an LED disk like that. Basicely delusionnal self harm.
More from the "cyberpunk is coming" side of things: A news article about a company in Los Angeles that rents "pod apartments". For just $1500 a month, you can live in a communal room with a dozen other people and share a kitchen and bathroom. What about personal possessions? Don't worry, it comes with lockers!
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/10/04/17880334_1301569389934762_1348722571262861732_o-d600ecd3b38bca2df09df67f47e5319bbbebdfbf-s1100-c15.jpg
Also on the cyberpunk side is how the article spins this in a positive way, it's not because people can't even afford to rent a studio apartment, it's because they enjoy the social experience of living in a one-room commune!
The more bulky body mods, and more specifically Grindhouse Wetworks' stuff are seriously suspect. In that second picture in particular, the guy had to remove it because the lithium ion battery was about to explode his arm off. And all it can really do is take your temperature.
What is it, G*ardian, a genre hit a nerve?
can someone explain why this is dumb? i mean sure, it's just a one-to-one contrast for a bunch of points but it's well developed. even if it's repetitive it's a good rehash
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