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seriously try snus, doesn't hurt to try at least the act of smoking cigs is also addictive in the form of the habit you're used to, so it's also good for a change
So that's how the Belmonts get strong enough to fight vampires...
Yeah definitely go for snus man. The stinging in your mouth and the taste is actually nice, I'd suggest some white ice mint flavor. Average snus is kinda shit IMO It won't get rid of your nicotine addiction, but it's better than smoking and it may be easier to control, and you won't have to go outside for a smoke every time
good news i can do all the smoking diabetes and heart disease i want
People have a habit of over-exaggerating how much predators are actively being athletic. For example, the average lion or lioness spends 4-8 hours a day awake. Likewise, tigers, bats, snakes, opossums and weasels spend about 18-20 hours a day asleep, while cats, dogs, frogs, rodents spend about 13-16 hours asleep. Sleep matters alot toward health! It's the herbivores that have to work their asses off, many only getting 1-6 hours of sleep a day and having to spend over 12 hours a day eating typically to sustain themselves.
Ah I see. Snuff it is I suppose. Nuuska in Finnish. Or Nöpö.
Isn't snus almost as damaging to your health as cigs? Certainly not as bad but still bad in its own way. Higher risk of pancreatic cancer than cigs and a higher risk of heart failure compared to cigs just to name a few complications.
Of course it still carries certain risks and has a damaging effect, of course. But it is "better" than cigs, and ultimately when it comes down to certain things we consume for enjoyment but at the expense of damaging our health, we're faced with different choices and options. Here is a paper that compares between cigarette smokers and snus users, "continuers", "switchers" and "quitters" and specifically moist "snus" (tiny bags of tobacco, no chewing) and it should give some idea about the risks. If you're actively exercising, then you should be good and live a long, healthy life, even if you find yourself enjoying the stinging, taste and buzz of a good quality snus on occasion.
I worry more about the planet being burned up by the time I will or would have reached old age.
I was planning on dying at 40 anyway.
I'd exercise more if it didn't make me feel like crap so much.
There's kinda an issue with this study in that they really don't stratify things more than "CAD" or "non-CAD", and they didn't ask about heart failure or lung diseases. There's a big difference between a little angina fixed by PCI and needing to have 5 arteries by-passed. Essentially, two patients might fit into the CAD-group, but the exercise test simply ends up being a proxy test for the severity of their disease, not how much being in-shape actually means. This pattern continues with "Current or prior smoker" - this is a very heterogeneous group, and the fact that they didn't ask about COPD is pretty questionable in my opinion. It's also interesting that people referred for "other" had waaaaay higher mortality: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/185359/add67ef7-8871-4be6-a8e4-d7bd3e47c2c9/image.png They say that they included this fact in their regression analysis, but it'd be nice to see how those patients fit into each indication group. I don't doubt that exercise is healthy for you, but if you're simply measuring disease severity by proxy and then treat it as a separate thing, you sorta haven't shown what you think you've shown.
Since he's mentioning stinging he means the normal snus in the packets that you stick under your lip.
Find some taste that actually works and go 12mg or worse. One sick rip of that baby in the morning and I have to sit the fuck down.
In my opinion, staying too "healthy" is in general not the healthiest option either. You have to keep poisoning your body a bit occasionally to keep it in check - Sort of like "Here's some alcohol, you can still handle that, right?". Basically sort of like having mini vaccinations of various common ills. To be clear, this is all anecdotal, but I've even heard of a guy who was super healthy, excercising regularly, who fainted suddenly, aged I believe around 35. They had to get his medical records from his primary school doctor's office. He was dead within a week. And I'm sure we've all heard of one local guy who hasn't smoked a cigarrete and his life and ended up with lung cancer at age 30 or something.
An FBI agent's wife in Hannibal TV got a lung cancer because a tiny little cell from her kidney got lost and confused, found itself in her lungs and thought it was just doing its job. Boom, cancer. And Heisenburg from BrBa also got a lung cancer despite never smoking a single cigarette, but he recovered. All anecdotal yes, but still. It can be just dumb luck. :-(
I'm not gonna dispute that some things that might generally be considered harmful can be downright healthy small amounts, but this "vaccination" idea is not how things work. With regards to your anecdotes, that 35 year old probably had a congenital heart defect that caused him to suddenly go into cardiac arrest - I experienced a case like his not even a month ago (well, happened at the hospital I was interning at, I wasn't directly involved with it). It's really not that uncommon, and it doesn't occur because he was too healthy or whatever. Cancer occurs at random, and some people are predisposed - that hypothetical guy didn't get cancer at 30 because he didn't smoke, he got cancer because he was unlucky.
Trump is in his 70s and he thinks that exercise is bad for you because he literally believes that humans have a finite amount of energy that is depleted every time you work out.
You sure the Ferryman got a big enough boat for that?
Until the next episode, where the opposite will be true. See you there guys!
I find that the only way to do it is to take some time off to cold turkey it. But nicotine is a forgiving bitch, it's easy to go right back when life starts dropping shit on you.
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