• CD Projekt Red employee doxxed after GOG.com tweet used a trans movement hashtag
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Even without the neo nazis looking for anything to be outraged about, giving companies Twitter accounts was a bad idea.
i have a feeling that this may just be polish people who aren't in tune with US politics at all. should have looked deeper into the hashtag, but yea
I'd say Matrix had a big influence on 21rst century cyberpunk, was very influenced by cyberpunk (ghost in the shell in particular) and was made by two trans directors (and they were at the time of making the movie, not out yet). They then made the Animatrix with many anime artists who worked on all the major cyberpunk anime franchises. And it's thanks to the animatrix that Shinichiro Watanabe came back to western collaboration and made Black Out 2022 to expand Blade Runner 2049's world. So i'd argue trans creators had a big impact on the genre as well.
As creators, sure, the Wachowskis have been an influence in recent memory, but there is honestly not a big presence of expressly trans matters in the series. Most of it is fairly genre generic stuff.
Huh, Ian joined Infowars?
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/297971/0b69009a-55b0-4809-9971-4f8eb22bed41/image.png here's an infowars articles from him https://www.infowars.com/over-20k-migrants-enter-europe-in-four-months/ https://www.infowars.com/wtf-james-gunn-pedophilia-themed-party-photos-surface/ and here's him being used a source for a breitbart article https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/06/claim-cnns-brian-stelter-mocks-alex-jones-following-big-tech-censorship-blitz/ https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/08/11/photos-surface-of-guardians-director-james-gunn-at-pedophilia-themed-party/ And yeah he was very involed in the alt right campaign to have James Gunn fired. He either writes them entirely or infowars and breitbart just show his tweets with a couple paragraphs and that's the whole "article".
That doesn't mean the Matrix pushes any particularly transgender ideology (at least as far as I can tell), and it also doesn't mean that transgender ideology is the basis of cyberpunk as Starbot claimed. Not to discount what the Wachowskis did (I watched The Matrix too many times back when I was 14-15), but I don't really see how their gender identities are really involved with the genre.
Yea maybe, but that's what starbot said, not me. My point was that they had a big impact on cyberpunk.
Man. Dude really did a turnheel then. Like, prob too hard cuz I remember him turning face when people were calling the Witcher 3 sexist. Just kind of odd, but I hope things turn out best for him
yeah, transhumanist that's not what we're talking about lol
I wish people would realise that 90% of these 'scandals' are literally only a thing because some shitheel journalists looking to draw in views decided to blow it's coverage way up. Like when I see that something is a 'scandal' and said 'scandal' involved maybe a few hundred/thousand tweets. Out of the entire English speaking world - populated by billions - there were a few hundred people that had grievance - not even taking into account bots, people from the other side looking to rile things up, and just plain old shitposters looking for an argument - and the media decides that this event needs to speak for entire movements. It's so ridiculous when you actually think about the scale of most of these cases. Don't buy into shitty tactics like this. They just want your time. and it goes for big and small outlets.
Srsly did ppl on this site forget how to read lmao
https://twitter.com/viperwave/status/1055487042233151488?s=19
The whole point of outrage bait is to get you to react before you read, or ideally to not read at all.
Got a link?
You nibbas actually retarded lmao
I don't get why people are having such are hard time seeing why some folks might not take kindly seeing a slogan made in response to a minority being legally erased get exploited for unrelated marketing. At very best it's extremely tacky. Sure some people are blowing this out of proportion, but I think a lot of other people are blowing the reaction to this out of proportion. Most people saw a tweet they didn't like, and tweeted that they didn't like it. Haphazardly pulling a popular hashtag out of a hat and using it to promote your brand without even a cursory investigation into what it is about is pretty poor marketing practise no matter how you slice it.
here's rock paper shotgun complaining about the tweet and linking to someone posting info about GoG's social media manager GOG makes another offensive tweet, offers non
Yeah that's p fucking dumb. The guy apologised too, twice. Resetera overracts way too much to everything. This is pointless.
Reading that article it sounds like the GoG Twitter mutilated a cat live in front of a class of kids. What HORRIBLE thing has been written on Twitter now? Like it’s a dumb tweet for a company to make but gimme a break here. I doubt GoG has an agenda to undermine trans rights in the US.
Expecting rational discussion to ever happen on ResetEra is pretty much a mistake. If there's something to extrapolate any amount of offense over, they will push that "offense" to its limits, while attempting to harm those who perpetuated the offense in the process. Them being a notable forum for leaks only results in news outlets paying close attention to them and those outlets who participate in perpetuating the outrage culture of today's media leap on threads like this, making them front page news for easy clicks. This only gives ResetEra more power and influence over situations like this. This also results in news outlets for the other side of the debate, like Lulz in this example, to do the same. Reasonable discussion on the matter for all sides is drowned out by those who take offense, and those who are offended by the offended people. I still stand by what GOG did as being perpetuated by ignorance, not by malice. You would think that if they as a company really were against trans rights, and really wanted to show it, you'd see this shit more often in their posts and games, no? That instead of at least trying to apologize, they'd double down on their stance.
We live in a society where a credited and accomplished comedian can have their entire career deleted over what they say on Twitter. It's not surprising at this point.
I don't see why we can't say that doxxing is extremely bad and should never be done in any non-exceptional circumstance, but also that this isn't the first time GOG/ CDPR have made an 'oopsy woopsy' PR mistake making light of trans issues at a particularly sensitive and difficult time for the community in the US and across Europe (hell, in CDPR's native Poland LGBT rights are practically going backwards). It's understandable that trans people might be upset about it, particularly because a lot of us are intensely familiar with social media because that's our primary outlet to be able to discuss our issues; it kind of feels like shit when somebody stamps all over that for personal gain. And then providing an 'apology' that doesn't include the words 'apology' and instead just talks about how they should be focussing on games instead of... what? All they had to do to defuse this was say "we're really sorry, this was a case of us jumping the gun, we support trans gamers". And they couldn't even do that. And yes, just to reiterate: None of this justifies doxxing.
Imagine giving a shit about twitter at all.
Twitter is literally one of the biggest and most influential communication platforms that has ever existed.
And that's incredibly sad. Twitter is terrible for communicating.
To be fair, the reaction makes more sense if you don't intentionally read everything in an overly emotional "i'M lItErAlLy ShAkInG!!!!!" manner. The company used the slogan of a minority group that is currently being targeted for discrimination by the US government.... to promote their video game stuff. I think it's fair to say that's not a good look, especially considering this isn't the first time something like this has happened.
Sure, but occam's razor can be useful here: which is more likely, the company intentionally and maliciously attempted to co-opt a movement to push their product, or saw a trending hashtag that could easily be worded into their typical slogan and didn't dig any further? Especially since they have history of doing the latter in the past.
Twitter is geocities with less graphics and more idiocy, and will go the same way as geocities did, because they aren't making the slightest effort to move anything forward.
I never implied the company was being intentionally malicious, at the absolute worst it's just the guys running their social media accounts being assholes, but even then I think it's just someone being clueless. Either way I can understand why people would be annoyed. Trans people in America have every reason to feel scared and threatened right now, this stuff probably doesn't seem so petty for the people facing down discrimination right now, and I can't blame them for telling a company trying to make flippant use of their rallying slogans, intentionally or otherwise, to fuck off.
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