One student dead after high school fight ends in shooting - Sensationalist Headlines

It seems weird to me that you'd be able to afford a home and gun(s), but not a locker to put them in. I'm absolutely not in favour of disadvantaging the poor, and having a locker isn't supposed to be a monetary deterrent - subsidisation would of course be nice, but I don't know if that's realistic. I would also imagine that if gun lockers were to become mandatory as they are in many other countries, you'd see a far wider range of options that would cover many price ranges.

Not surprised this happened in north carolina, you can buy guns at wal mart here

they cost like $100-200 for something really cheap, so take that as you may a lot of people rent though, rather than own homes

Yeah, and drug addicts who OD are the result of America's unenforced drug laws. Too bad the war on drugs has mostly failed in the western part of the world, yet it seems everyone thinks a war on guns will succeed. The problem lies in modern American society and culture, not it's laws.

I'm not saying that there are no laws which criminalize what he did, because there are. We have decent gun laws in the United States, we just don't enforce them enough and the ATF doesn't get enough funding to do so. It's like drugs: we have laws making marijuana illegal, but there's basically nothing preventing you from buying weed

people already kinda tried that with drugs half the EU has arguably less restrictive gun laws than california, yet california's crime rate isn't any better correlation doesn't mean causation, if there even is correlation to begin with either way, i think you missed the point of his post. the government tried to stop drugs, and couldn't. in the past, they tried to stop alcohol and couldn't. governments to the south of us tried to stop guns and couldn't. just because drug bans worked in some parts of the world (like singapore) doesn't mean that it'll work everywhere else.

drugs and guns are completely different things and people seek them out for different reasons. I don't think they're comparable in policy here. People aren't addicted to guns.

does something being addictive somehow make it so that people have an easier time smuggling it and obtaining it? what does it matter why somebody might want something? if somebody wants something, they will find a way to get it, and there are plenty.

It definitely alters what kind of demand there is for it. All kinds of people want to buy drugs illegally; lots of totally harmless people want to buy drugs illegally. People who want to buy guns illegally are bad actors

i think a large reason why most people who want to buy guns illegally are bad actors is because those who aren't bad actors don't have any reason to buy them illegally. depending on laws, that may change there's more drugs than weed, but whatever. guns also might not be as complicated to make as you may think. people build homemade weapons all around the world (brazil, australia, etc) just fine. here is one example that came to mind instantly, but there are plenty more. More Australian motorcycle gang DIY firearms surface it's not just america where it's easy to get guns illegally. the world isn't just the US, the EU, and china. also, it may not be so much that it's harder to get illegal guns in the EU than it is that less people want to obtain them, or that they generally don't do anything high-profile with them. i feel like if europe had american gun laws, they would still have less crime overall compared to the united states.

Much of the US's gun violence can be attributed to two factors (well, the second is a bit more than two as a whole). The first is mental health, which involves things such as suicide to this event in the thread, and the second is gang violence. With the first we've already beaten a dead horse time and time again, but the second involves a much more deep seated issue that is uniquely American. Gang violence, and by extension violence surrounding drugs, isn't caused by people who decided to be bad apples one day. They are the effects of prolonged racism, economic disparity, and inequality. Many people have become disenfranchised through years of Jim Crow and racial segregation brought about by redlining and racial covenants, the greater divide between the 1% and the rest in terms of economic prosperity, and outright good ol' fashioned racism play a key role in the cause of the symptoms we see today as firearms violence. I intend on doing a study on this particular relation as apart of my senior thesis, and depending whether or not I do it well I'll be posting my finding in the firearms thread. There are more guns than people in this country, and no matter how many forced buy backs or laws you implement you are not going to solve the issue of gun violence. If you want to stop gun violence you need to solve the root issues I've mentioned above.

I dont know how much weight one person carries, but I very easily could've gotten a hi-point or a cheap .22 in high school had I been so inclined, and had an extra $100-$200. In fact I vaguely remember declining an offer once. Idk just a reminder that not all US cities are the same I guess. If we wanna compare to drugs, guns are as easy cocaine or acid to find around here. 4th of July is fun time around here