• U.S. Law Enforcement Failed to See the Threat of White Nationalism
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Also the Good Friday agreement lead to a major decrease in left wing terrorism. While the terrorist attacks of the Troubles were largely outside of the US, American Irish were major contributors of funding and material.
Even if you can name one or two there is signifigantly more right wing terrorism.
The fact he could only name one, and it happened over a year ago, while anyone who even vaguely reads the news can name at least three incidents from right wing terrorists from the past week and a half should show how often one occurs and how rarely the other does.
This is just an excuse for you to set the timetable for politics you don't agree with
I never disputed that, at all. You're even posting in a thread that in the very OP shows the last 8 years of statistics showing there is significantly more of the latter than the former. Can you stop saying dumb shit? You asked for, and i quote - directly from you - "Seriously, name even ONE group or individual" and i named one individual, from last year no less.
Please, the pigs know damn well what's going on here, they didn't "fail to realize" jack shit. ACAB man, those who work forces are the same that burn crosses. Pigs do not look out for you if you're not a white guy.
Club of mostly white people with authority fail to see the threat of white nationalism... Figures nothing in this country is a problem unless it threatens a certain demographic's way of life.
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crazy muslim does a terrorist attack and people go "yes this is horrible, but not all muslims are like that. we cant blame all muslims for something some muslims do" crazy alt righter does a terrorist attack and people go "OMG THESE RIGHTWING TERRORISTS ARE RUINING OUR COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!" double standard much?`Also there are millions more right wing voters in america then there are muslims, so statistically they do commit more terror attacks.
I rated your post winner by mistake because everything you said was incredibly idiotic in almost every respect.
at least explain how mr einstein
No, right wing attackers have been generally phrased as "lone wolves" in the media and not depicted as part of a collective pattern. Which they are. I also don't see how criticizing the categories for domestic terrorism was "moronic"? It was to compare the far right to muslims who are, according to the right wing narrative, the biggest extremist threat. Additionally, seeing how right wingers coined the fake term "alt left" and propagated Antifa as terrorists, it was reasonable to make a comparison to left wing attacks as well.
"We really dropped the ball on spotting the white nationalist threat" says institutional wing of white nationalism
and colored kids who shoot other students in school doesnt get media attention at all, so whats your point? its moronic because its divisive, right wing people this, muslim people that. It doesn't lead to anything aside from people going to think the 'other people' are bad. If you're gonna push all right wing people together with all extremists such as nazis or nationalists then you have to push all muslims together with extremists such as terrorists and jihadists. otherwise you are being biased and a bigot. Im not an islamophobe nor a republican, but saying that the alt right commits more terror than islam is straight up wrong, simply because there are millions of more people that are far right than there are muslims in the USA. Per person muslims do commit more violent attacks than the right wing.
Urban crime does make it in the news. The article does make a distinction between far right extremists and the rest. Frankly, I don't see how else we would be able to have a conversation about this issue. There is clearly a pattern. And your last argument is just dismissive whataboutism. If the total majority of terror attacks are committed by the far right, why not do something about it?
You mean like how all right wing people have generally been pushing their left wing counterparts since the early 2000s as illegitimate partners in this country that we both exist in?
Your argument that "Muslims commit more crime than the far right because there are more far right than Muslims" demonstrates that your math skills haven't advanced past middle school, even though it's pretty clear you don't have any actual numbers on your side and you just went with an argument you've seen on /pol/ or some other far right shithole as a means of distraction.
part of the those 'costs' is that a significant chunk of cops are white nationalists. Because the vast majority of America that isn't on the coasts is right wing. Vast vast majority.
There are millions more left wing people than Muslims as well, and they're not committing dozens of terror attacks every year. Nobody's saying that all right-wingers are terrorists. We're saying that the Republican party has a problem if its rhetoric is breeding violent extremism. Its the same problem Islam has. If right-wingers want to use terrorism as a political talking point, then they're going to need to fix the problems with their own party before pointing the blame at other groups.
There is one crucial difference that makes it completely logical to separate them: If the far-right wins and turns the country into a christian theocracy based on biblical law, the islamic terrorists will keep killing. If the islamists win and turn the country into a muslim theocracy based on sharia law, the far-right terrorists will keep killing. That is why the categorization into right/left/islamic makes sense. The different right-wing attackers might emphasize different parts of the regressive philosophy but they still represent the same faction. Likewise, the islamic terrorists might emphasize different parts of their ideology, but still are fighting on the same side as the other.
I too deny things as false simply because they don't agree with my preconceptions. Sorry dudue but the fact don't agree with you. I've said this before but you might consider being more subtle. You're just far too obvious for anyone to really take you seriously. Ironic thing to say considering that those idiotic generalizations come from the right far more than the left. You know. The people who equate Antifa to Democratic voters. Coincidentally they're also the same people whining about the small amount of people who have looked at these recent far right extremist attacks and generalized the entire right as being that way. (Reality check: Most left-leaning people have made a distinction between right-leaning people and these extremists. The only places there's actually overlap is the people such as Trump who are a major source of problems.) This isn't an entirely accurate claim. It's not just the coasts that tend to be left-leaning but big cities as well. It just so happens that most of the big cities happen to be on the coast is all.
Still waiting for you to back this up, unless you're full of more shit than a cow field.
Its kind of hard to look in the mirror. The white nationalists are a deep part of the lifestyle of being conservative now.
Nothing wrong with being white and nationalistic, or black and nationalistic or for that matter, any race, what does race really have to do with nationalism? This isn't 1945 anymore. Supporting your country is the right thing to do, if you don't like/support your country, either change it or leave.
Generally speaking that is true, however, you downplaying the fact that these people's sense of nationalism is intrinsically tied to their race. That is to say, in the case of these white nationalists, they believe that the United States is --and is meant to be --a white [Christian] nation. The problem is that they support/believe irrational, racist, regressive, selfish and xenophobic ideals that are antithetical to what the United States (or a democracy), ideally, stands and strives for. Racially-tied or other chauvinistic nationalism is a slippery slope into extremism. As The Vman said: Nobody's saying that all right-wingers are terrorists. We're saying that the Republican party has a problem if its rhetoric is breeding violent extremism.
If you are a white nationalist then you believe that the white race and culture is superior to all others, and under attack from other cultures and must be defended. That makes you at best a paranoid conspiracy nut and at worst a racist.
I don't think the term "white nationalist" is an okay term to inherently link and label as "racist". What you are describing are two different things. "White Nationalist" and "A white nationalist that is racist". They are not the same. Just like a "black nationalist" is not inherently racist because he is black and is nationalistic, Being a certain race or believing in Nationalism doesn't mean feeling superior to other races or to having a one-race agenda.You can be a nationalist as be of any race and respect other nations. I have a overall problem with labels being attached to certain things, the world isn't black and white. Both the US democratic party and republican party have extremists and fringe group that have racists and nationalists on both sides. Adding labels to things is why things have become so polarised.
Never in my life have I heard "white nationalist" taken to mean someone who is nationalist, and just happens to be white While that's grammatically correct and all, the term refers to nationalist white supremacists
Also, let's separate patriotism from nationalism, because I so often see right-wingers talking about being a nationalist when it seems like they're actually trying to express their pride for their country. Patriotism is loving your country for what it is and what it does. Nationalism is loving your country in spite of what it is and believing it has a fundamental right to do what it does to other nations. You can't just grab another country by the pussy and tell it what to do.
A black nationalist in America has more merit than a white nationalist by virtue of the definition. White culture and race is not under attack, and does not need defending. The only place I could believe true white nationalists exist with any sort of credence is South Africa where whites are under attack and persecuted. And in turn, black nationalism was huge in Africa post-colonialism to break the shackles of colonization. I'm not sure if you actually know what nationalism is or are just confusing it with patriotism.
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