Rumor: JJ is a hack, Star Wars Episode IX to bring back iconic Star Wars Villian - Sensationalist Headlines

"I only metaphysically punched you in the face!"

I get why people don't like the new trilogy, it's difficult to not see why people don't like them, I don't overreact and thing Star Wars is dead, unless another Trilogy comes out after this and it's just shit, in which case yeah, it seems Star Wars is fairly fucked. Honestly I don't know what to think of Episode 9, like how much of an interest I have in it, The Force Awakens wasn't so bad but I've read some shit about JJ and it makes me not like him too much as a director, Rian Johnson is still fucking garbage though, god damn.

u sure ur not thinking about dragonball z my dude

They can still buy cheap suicide ships. Plus even if they do not have that many ships, sacrificing one of their smaller ships for a much bigger one is a perfect trade-off. The rebels already lose ships all the time, instead of losing 10 ships to destroy a single star destroyer the normal way, just suicide one ship and be done with it. Plus judging by the mass discrepancy in TLJ, you can probably knock out a star destroyer with a well aimed fighter or bomber. The second deathstar shield could be theoretically strong enough to withstand a lightspeed ram but we have no guarantee the shields would be able to fully block it. As for the first deathstar, fighters could get close enough to crash into it and it got done in by a torpedo in an exhaust port, both of which seem to suggest it either had a really weak shield or none at all. Starkiller is the only one that probably has enough mass so as to make a ramming maneuver unfeasible. However, a direct ram into the main cannon would likely disable, it not destroy it. Not to mention the weakspot of the damn thing was completely exposed. Yes that's exactly what I have been saying, thanks for proving my point. Do not forget either that the Raddus took out not only a bunch of ships it's own size, but that was after it cut right through a ship nearly 10 times as big as it was. The mass discrepancy is enormous. Why do you think sacrificing a ship would mean killing everyone in it? You even said it yourself that you can just evacuate everyone except for the pilot. Fuck you do not need a pilot, just use a droid, or use purpose-built suicide craft that will be much cheaper to produce than an equivalent ship. Because those do not create plot holes. At no point is the explanation about crystals necessary. ANH establishes lightsabers and the rules behind them and the other movies follow those rules. The problem with the hyperspace ram scene is that it makes you question, if such a thing is possible, why it was not used in the previous important space battles, considering how effective it is. It's a retcon that breaks the established rules of the universe.

"Dozens of cruisers and hundreds of fighters" is a drop in the ocean compared to a galaxy spanning empire that likely has hundreds of thousands of ships. The loss of a single small ship would hurt the rebellion far more than the empire would be hurt if they lost one their biggest ships. Even losing the Death Star wasn't much of a hindrance to the empire, especially since they had the resources to just start building a new one.

They can still make cheap suicide vessels. And fighters for star destroyers or cruisers for the deathstar are still good ratios. Regardless of whether or not Lucas thought about it, the simple fact is that it did not happen before and making it happen now just creates plot holes for the sake of spectacle.

I think you're overestimating how much resources the rebellion might have if you think they could just build a bunch of "cheap" suicide vessels. And no, those aren't still good tradeoffs because the empire still has hundreds of thousands of other ships to fight with plus the resources to quickly build more as needed, assuming they weren't already building more anyway. They practically won't even feel the loss. Whereas that one lost ship can be a major setback for the rebellion and can drastically hamper their fighting ability. The only reason it was done in the last jedi was because it was an extremely dire situation in which the entire rebellion was about to be completely wiped out. Look, even if it were a plot hole, it's still a pretty minor one. It's no worse than any of the plot holes or other inconsistencies in the original trilogy that have already been pointed out in this thread by other users. This is just nitpicking compared to the other problems that the last jedi has.

Actually they were the status quo until the end of the 7th movie. There's no rebellion without plot-fuckery in the 8th. Star Wars is a hack-fraud series.

In the alternative star wars canon which with the latest star wars releases was made invalid, the emperor is supposed to have come back as he cloned himself. So i'm fine with that, as long as that's how it plays out. I'm not a fan of the new direction the canon has gone, in that, they took a literal shit on the canon so many writers and contributors and lucas added to the star wars universe.

Ah, in defense I have watched force awakens since launch. Still, I stand with the overall point of my post that the og rebellion wouldn't have been able to afford sacrificing their scarce resources. Also yeah, Star Wars is definitely a hack fraud series. No arguments there.

Yet if you remember the New Republic on the whole didn't consider the First Order as a threat, only a select group in "The Resistance" did, and they were given minimal funding as a result.