• Eleven people wounded as gunman opens fire in California bar
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For being someone who decided to shoot up a bunch of students at a bar I'm gonna bet my money on his former comrades coming out with stuff like he was an incompetent asshole or something.
I've actually been following some posts on the facebook page of Terminal Lance. Some people are coming forward that knew him. Apparently he was an OK Marine, just slightly strange or a little quiet sometimes but nothing out of the ordinary. Seems the problems were really compounded when he left the service, and he was away from his buddies. Your friends in the service are some of the most solid pillars holding your support structure up. It's really sad that it got to this point. Now we will never know.
I never understood the people who keep getting outraged every time someone tries to discuss the root causes or possible solutions whenever there's a thread about mass shooting. What the hell do you expect people to talk about, other than saying "this sucks" after rating the OP "sympathy"? Yes, people died, and the logical step after sharing condolences is discussing how it can be prevented from happening again.
it's really awful how the republican party treats veterans. from deploying tear gas on them, to gutting the VA and using them as political footballs instead of tangibly assisting them in any way
It's hard to help people that actively resist getting any. You can have all the programs and aid available to veterans in the world, but as the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. This guy apparently resisted all help that was available. Yes, treatment of veterans is awful, but there ARE programs available to them. Trust me, I'm sick of the military being used as a prop, and they really should stop, but I don't see what could have helped here.
well maybe if he was refusing treatment for problems that the police and his mother knew he had, he shouldn't have had a gun?
That depends. Are we talking about actual root causes (like social issues, poverty, terrible enforcement of laws which already exist, and the background check system having woefully large gaps in it), or are people just going to fall for the assault weapons ban meme which just won’t die? Because at least 90% of the time it’s just people with moral outrage saying “we should ban guns” while pretending to know what they’re talking about and I can’t be arsed to bother with that argument right now.
Wait so this guy did die in this shooting after surviving vegas? Thats awful
He was investigated to be 5150'd and cleared. California has red flag laws. Plus if you don't seek help for issues you have, they aren't documented. By what avenue would you have achieved this? The controls were there and all of them failed.
Not gonna lie, if I were in DC, I'd find a way to sneak one in there.
Says the guy playing to the crowd. You can take those high morals and apply them towards saving future kids instead of trying to "own" a guy whose country actually works.
I'd rather live somewhere with higher knife crime than gun crime. Someone with a knife is a lot more limited in their ability to kill a lot of people than someone with a gun
"Middle eastern" because it controls the narrative.
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