First Nations women kept from seeing their newborn babies unless sterilized - Sensationalist Headlines

A lot of your questions are answered by your other questions. 1.It's happening because it's been happening for a long time. 2.It's been happening for a long time because it started when it was socially acceptable to do this. 3.Nobody's put a stop to it because nobody talks about it in the first place. 4/5.See above 6.Canada's government is still technically a continuation of the British colonial government, who just generally did this kind of shit back in the day. 7.Probably not much from outside of Canada unfortunately, a big part of what got the US government to try and sort its shit out with native peoples was a result of native protests in the 20th century.

what the fuck, I thought Canada was cool

This seems like the kind of shit they'd do in the 1920s, when people were flirting with eugenics as a scientific belief, when phrenology was still considered science, and before Hitler put all the principles into practice and definitively put Eugenics in the "let's never talk about that again" category

In fairness, I am more trying to express shock and disgust at the awful events than actually seek out answers. Namely because I cannot think of any answers as to why any aspect of this could possibly be justified. Imagine attending medical school, accepting the entire doctrine of "Do No Harm," going through thousands of hours of study and practice to achieve the best possible care of your patients, graduate medical school to find a job at a hospital in a First World nation, only to end up carrying out policy and/or procedures that are defined as genocide by the United Nations as well as almost every legal system in the West, and never giving it a second thought. And the worst bit imo is, at the end of the day, all I can reasonably do about this is look at the people responsible from here in the US and ask "How Come?"

Reminds me of how during the Cold War, Canada wanted to assert dominance over the Arctic Archipelago so the Soviets couldn't establish bases up there. Well one way to claim territory is to have a settlement in the area because it's hard to despite ownership if you get there and someone's already living under another nations flag. So they round up some native families on welfare from Quebec and shipped them off to the high arctic to start a town. Told them there would be buildings to live in and wildlife to hunt and they could comfortably return to their traditional ways. Well then they got there and there was no buildings and scarce wildlife, and Canada was like "okay seeya" and just left them up there with no choice but to survive. The town's still there, and it's not the only one either..

This is a complicated issue, and part of why it's so complicated is because the Canadian Federal Government decided to let the native groups self administrate. Under the Indian Act(What a terrible fucking name) it was set forth that the bands, tribes, and groups, would administrate themselves with minimal, if any, oversight from the federal government. It was this overall piece of legislation that has set the stage for both the gross neglect of the native population, and set them up to abuse each other as we have seen time and time again. To start "fixing" this, we have to dissassemble native reservations as they exist now, because that isolation is only making things worse as far as we can reasonably tell. They should still exist in some form or another, but the current itteration has allowed for too much rampant abuse by errant chiefs, and has allowed for way, way too much "grey area" to exist in these communities as far as policing, educating, and otherwise go.

The deep, dark, fucked up, not-so-secret secret of Canada. You'd think this issue would've been resolved by now but it feels like some post-it note somewhere on the government board. Hopefully, these terrible acts getting rewritten in the next decade and finally start leaving this behind like the nightmare it is. Poor woman.

This is precisely why I will always vehemently argue with anyone that thinks First Nations people shouldn't get reimbursement from the government, or should "just integrate". So many stupid and/or uneducated people here that have absolutely no idea about the horrific shit they went through, and still go through every day. The last "Residential School" closed in 1990, for fucks sake, and some of the most horrific shit that ever happened in North America happened in those schools.

"Gah what the fuck" is my literal reaction. To think the one nation that i thought had its shit together for the most part is partaking in eugenics against minorities/natives. Im fucking baffled. Is nowhere sane?

This is really shameful. It's one of those fucked up parts of our history that we somehow still haven't gotten rid of. I'm not sure how many Canadians actually support such poor treatment of First Nations, but I think it stems from widespread ignorance, more than anything. I'd like to believe that I don't live in a country full of sociopaths.

Wait, so when Saudi Arabia called out for oppressing women, they were right?? Saudi Arabia vs. Canada

how is some murderers on a highway an inditement of the country as a whole, exactly What's really bizzare is that our goverment will bend over backwards to please the naitives, ultimately to bizzare and counterproductive degrees. For example, it's mandatory policy that all judges must give obligatory lighter sentences to natives to "correct" the fact that naitives are disproportionately jailed, because a racial caste legal system is a great idea. Or legislating that any major projects at the provincial or federal level must consult the natives, which is peculiar since what "consult" means is woefully undefined and ends up with naitive figureheads having the power to arbitrarily veto basically anything they want, which when put into effect at the local level ends up with the entire town dying as every stupid permit to build a shed gets vetoed or lost in red tape, like happened to Anaheim Lake. We bend over backwards in the name of making admends, and then shit like this happens. I don't understand how this could happen.

So a lot of people in here are like, wtf I thought Canada was cool. We might treat other minorities better than America, but when it comes to the Native population they are still essentially second class citizens. Even when I try to talk to my white progressive friends about native issues and how fucked they are, the conversation still goes towards things like: "I know a guy who's only part native and he uses his status to avoid taxes" "That's terrible but we bend over backwards for them in benefits" We might be nice, polite, liberal, and more accepting, but goddamn we make up for that in our treatment of our natives. To the point that I read this story and had no big reaction other than "of course this happened".

wtf i hate canada now

not my liberal safe haven!!!!!!!!

Grise Fiord is the most isolated true community anywhere on the planet. Damn. At least the Canadian government paid them a 10 million dollars restitution but still.

Nothing will come of this. The PM will say some meaningless shit, we'll give some money to the chiefs and tell them to fuck off and it'll keep going. This is the single worst thing my country has ever done and its ongoing, how lovely, at least when we tried to kill all the Ukrainian immigrants we admitted we were wrong and stopped after a while.

Part of me is wondering if the Canadian government does those weird excessive amends in an attempt to hide the fact that they're still practicing eugenics on natives or make other people in Canada apathetic about it (as illustrated by Kolmala's post).

Basically the reason why it's still "happening" is because the original residential schools and initial cultural genocide programs under the Indian act _fucking worked_. Native Americans have either become shallow selfish idiots, or completely broken and helpless. Also, even if there's a bunch of money being allocated towards their aid, it's corruption all the way down. From Indian Affairs (they don't deserve their fancy PC name) all the way down to the cheifs of the reserves themselves. It's a giant shitshow, and it costs a lot more money and effort to actually fix the fundamental problems rather than just keeping things as they are and blindly throwing money at the problem while covering it up.

This falls under the most basic definition of negative eugenics. Wow, canada, what the fucc.

Huh, I didn't expect to hear that Canada has been committing genocide all theses years. Would this grant nearby country's casus belli on Canada?

If the US was to annex Canada today to prevent Genocide, I'd have no objection to it. It's a justified crusade against an unspeakable evil as too many nations have gotten away with this crimes in the past and haven't been punished for it. That's why i don't have much respect for the EU as they stood back and turned a blind eye to the ethnically cleansing happening during the break up of yugoslavia.

/s ...?

Didn't Sweden also used to sterilize without consent, but with transgendered people? This is absolutely disgusting.

friendship ended with canada now america is my best friend

I work on a Native American rancheria in California (rancherias are similar to reservations). It has a population of only about 140 (not providing exact census number for privacy reasons) but it's enough that I have a pretty good idea how how these places work. After all, I see the residents of the rancheria every day I come in to work. Basically it's pretty fucked. My understanding is that there's a sort of basic income in place, but it's incredibly low. It's designed to keep them down, not lift them up. It's enough that they don't really need to get a job to survive, but they're stuck in abject poverty forever. And it fosters an incredibly unhealthy culture of drinking and drugs. Way too many of the people I work around seem to do nothing all day, every day, other than drink themselves half to death and/or shoot up whatever drug they can afford, and then come to the casino to gamble away whatever government money they have left after that. The busiest day of the month at the casino, month after month, without fail, is the very first day after the government check comes in. The legality of "Indian Casinos" in America is a whole other fuckin subject. The truth of it is that the casino is an incredibly profitable corporation that makes its money off of the backs of its own people, and gives back far, far less of its profit to the Native American community than they put in. It's incredibly unethical, and I really have to tell myself that the mundane job I perform there isn't actually feeding into that system in any statistically considerable way. But then again AT LEAST WE AREN'T FUCKING FORCIBLY STERILIZING THEM (any more)

Wow, guess Canada isn't as progressive as people like to frame it. God damn.

Grise Fiord (Inuktitut: Aujuittuq, "place that never thaws") Resolute, (Inuktitut: Qausuittuq, literally "place with no dawn") Shows how dismal the conditions were that the resettled inhabitants gave them names like that. But hey, at least the survivors got an apology and $10 million CAD in 2010! That makes up for it, right? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Life_size_monument.jpg/800px-Life_size_monument.jpg Right?

The only people who frame Canada as progressive are conservatives who mare complaining about progressives. A lot of this country is still very conservative, and even a lot of people who are labor/union-oriented leftists are still horrendously racist and bigoted.

For much of the country I would agree, however for the Mohegan and Peqout Tribes in Connecticut, Casinos have really helped the Tribes thrive economically. They have been able to build back up as a result of the casinos. It's not the same everywhere I agree, but there are some major success stories.