• The Sex Recession - AKA Millenials should be having more sex
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I would also love to know the difference between western and eastern women @cretin , I honestly cant bear the state of things over here proactive people died for a few reasons. first and foremost, they likely get nothing in return. goodness should be rewarded but instead it's always just taken advantage of. another one is the more mundane "I cant afford to" I'd also love to just meet up with someone to genuinely spend time with them, to just meet up and chat, play some games, whatever to just forge a bond with somebody. I've been extremely unlucky living in Milan, nobody is available to do that, everyone's busy with their appearance and with furthering their interests. if you don't do something with someone, why bother going out with them? it's disheartening, but it's better this way than to try and care about these people who clearly dont value you as a person but just a presence for when they want to go out
Internet is just one part of the equation. The process of driving people to become secluded from each other started all the way back in the industrial revolution and has been ramping up since. No but the biochemistry of several fungal cultures will definitely make you practically invincible to STDs
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It truly is a shame: I feel like all of this time that I've spent alone on the computer provided me with invaluable moments of introspection and boosted both my emotional and general intellect, both of which really help bonding with new people. Unfortunately, all of the social experience I've missed means I have trouble forming new relationships the way my elders have - I never learned how to dance, I feel somewhat uncomfortable in bars and clubs, and I generally don't have most of the qualities needed that people who date around often do. Trying to form a meaningful bond with new people on dating websites and apps is really troublesome: dating culture is extremely disgusting over here as well, with this sort of casual and careless manner of meeting new people - relying heavily on first impressions, feeling entitled to being messaged, and so on.
I really appreciate it whenever a news section has these sorts of threads pop up and they become these cooperative ranting/confession sessions about shit. Extremely cathartic to have these once in a while.
I agree with you there. It's just a shame that the only thing we can all come together and agree upon is NOT getting laid I formed my only meaningful relationship with a girl who was in my training class when I worked at Comcast. I always love the development of relationships that are completely in person and not over the internet or text. But of course the rule of not dating coworkers does have some substance if you date a sociopath like I did. It still felt good to have someone who wasn't disgusted by the sight of me and somehow wanted to have sex with me pretty often. It turns out that's pretty much all she wanted, and when I started to get closer and more serious she jumped ship like crazy. Turns out she cheated on me twice while we were together. My tests came back clean though, just my mental health was completely shot for months after and I went mega hermit and completely shut myself off from the world. I learned a lot from that though. Online dating does nothing for me, and I'm not sure why I spend even minutes a day swiping on Bumble. Rarely ever get matched and I'm not terribly photogenic so my profile just isn't all that appealing. I know my worth outside of online dating, but I'm just never presented with many social opportunities to engage with women and kind of get to know them more other than at work. But I will never date a coworker again because it just becomes too much of a risk for me. For others, more power to ya, but I'm too loving and get way too close too fast to really spend time with someone AT work and away from it. I understand everyone needs their alone time and work should be a place where you can focus on your work, not on life outside. I'm obese, suffer from severe depression and anxiety, but I still have better luck outside of social media with people. I'd encourage you all to spend some time this week or month just giving out random compliments and comments to people. It helped me a lot to just give some shout outs while I wasn't focused on dating. Just things like "I like your tattoo, that's really cool" or "Your *insert article of clothing* is awesome, where did you get that?" Do that to everyone, not just women. It'll break the shell a little more.
I think it was more entrapment for marriage/relationship than a clinical baby thing, I hadn't realized it at the time but she was obsessed.
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My dad raised my brother and I on one basic, but very important law of adulthood: Do not have children or be married until you are at least 30 or financially settled. I think that's what our generation has subconsciously followed since the recession. My brother is in his mid 30's now but just finally got married after having his first child and that was after a decade of working up the corporate ladder and getting settled. We've been set back too much to really feel like we've grown at all. But my brother got a head start a few years before the recession hit and now I'm not so lucky. I can barely afford a car on my own, the 20's for our generation must be like the teenage years for our parents.
Our generation is in a weird place where we are forced to be perpetual adolescents while simultaneously never having the full experience of being them. Society is not in the appropriate configuration to provide us with the feelings of adventurous social bliss that the adolescent decade is supposed to provide yet at the same time not providing us with the freedom of adulthood either. As a result we are seriously stuck as these weird permanent kids who are paradoxically forced to be as mature as possible.
Boomer Generation: Teen Years: Beater Personal Car, Dating Experimentation, Smoking & Booze, Sports and Arcades College Years: Crappy job to pay off college tuition, Sex, Recreational Drugs, More smoking and booze, take a summer vacation or internship that will lead into a job, Fair job market with good benefits regardless of discipline Late 20's/Early 30's: Nice car, starter home, marriage & possibly kids, job security 40's+: Sit on investments and home ownership until retirement Millenial/Zoomer Generation (for not rich kids): Teen Years: Shitposting online, take a fuckload of college level classes in high school to improve college applications (= no time for fun), practice school shooter drills, ignore student mental health because acknowledging it will make the school look bad, sex will give you AIDS/HIV/pregnancy so don't bother with it College Years: Use Public Transport/bike bc a parking pass is $400, Work shitty job to pay off student loan interest, drugs/alcoholism to cope with stress, take unpaid internship to be more competitive in job market, over-competitive dating market makes it not worth the time/effort for people to divert attention away from education/finances Late 20's/30's: Live with parents or in shitty housing to focus on loan repayments, buy a beater car to get to work, can't find people your age to date in a modern work environment, experiment with dating for the first time when your biological clock wants you to marry and have kids within 5 years, 40's+: ??? But hey at least we have video games and anime
And dank memes. Probably get recruited into a space marine chapter.
Everybody being too overworked to have sex is literally the same thing causing the population deficit in Japan. Now it's happening in the rest of the world.
Its easy when you're white or foreign
It's the fact populations are decreasing in eschewed manner: developed countries have education and jobs affect daily lives immensely on relationships and making a family. Meanwhile in developing countries people have so many kids so the risk of your lineage passing away from premature deaths (illnesses etc.) is decreased. Not to mention the fact levels of birth control are staggeringly different: former has a variety of contraceptives ranging from rubber to pills, meanwhile in latter it might be a miracle to even hear about condoms.
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A lot of individuals are definitely talking about how modern dating is simply unreasonably difficult and possesses completely uneven work vs reward ratio equivalent to that of playing I wanna be the guy with no monitor.
the amusement park owner bit had me laughing really hard. i had that feeling but i never was really able to articulate it.
That's odd, I never lived through such situations myself. I never felt that it was my responsibility to "entertain" a date, if anything I've had the opposite issue on a few occasions, where she would keep on talking without end about herself and not really acknowledge whatever addition I'd make to the conversation. But as a whole they were rather positive experiences, just two people getting to know each other and enjoying the moment. Most of them insist on splitting the bill as well. Maybe your issue is somewhat endemic to the US? Or perhaps you have a hard time sniffing out the toxic ones before you ask them out?
Lol my own dating experience is basically nonexistent I am just stating what I learned from various online discussions on reddit. It is not impossible that it has to do with the US culture specifically and that France is less retarded when it comes to the whole dating thing. I personally do not really believe in dating in general as mentioned earlier because it enforces a stilted formal ritual onto something that should be a lot less constricted and it's almost like the equivalent of explaining the joke while telling it, however that is probably just my own preference.
IDK, I dated a US girl from NC and I didn't have that issue with her either, so maybe it's just luck of the draw.
Well maybe you are just astranomically lucky then because if the internet is to be believed shit is pretty badly fucked at the moment.
Well it appears that lately the aforementioned vocal minority is becoming quite considerable in number given the original article
this + I've also noticed a lot less talk of new relationships being formed. I see one new relationship on facebook every few months now. I don't see as many couples walking around the supermarkets. You don't see 5/10s walking around with other 5/10s anymore. Something is going wrong.
I enjoying entertaining people in general, so I've never felt pressure to entertain a girl as I would do the same with friends. I'm not sure where everybody is getting this idea that you have to pay a ton of money to go on dates. 100% of my first dates, I just take em for a walk outside. It's much easier to have a conversation when you have something to enjoy, instead of having to sit face to face with a stranger at a table.
too easy to say this without declaring your success ratio if it were as easy as "lets go on a walk" to get dates and somehow entertain and keep the girl interested, people would be doing it a lot more
The very inherent fact that it's necessary for us as males to "keep anyone interested" is a fundamentally flawed construct in general. Most truly good relationships should arise as a friendly meeting between two souls, not as some kind of a bullshit rat race to see who can snatch the hottest bitch with the biggest dollar stack. I feel that if a male person is around a girl that he has to work to keep interested in the first place then it inherently indicates that it's not his real partner, in a truly healthy relationship there should be natural mutual interest from the very beginning with zero bells and whistles. Unfortunately with our current social configuration and conditioning it is practically impossible to have a girl next door situation going on that I am talking about. I am a believer in having the right person for the right person sort of thing, even if it kind of doesn't really exist right now.
Honestly even if this is accurate, I'm ok with it. If it means only a few of us will ever reproduce, then that's what it means lol. There's too many of us anyway, we don't need as high of a population as we do, and frankly if there's a bunch of, as you claim, "computer ridden, pornography overconsuming soibois" then they're just satisfied with their waifus so no harm done I wouldn't really cite incel communities as a good hot take when it comes to women's "mate selection". I have a lot of introverted hobbies and had a pretty secluded childhood, but I also still have an active sex life because I know how to work a fucking shower and I don't go around judging society just because not evey woman alive wants to recieve my meat train.
And this is why the removal of gender roles is important. All three of the people I've ever been with, we've been truly equal. One person will buy the meal one date, the other buys it the next. One person initiates any kind of physical touch whenever they feel it's right, the other has the ability to say "no not now" and vice versa. A lot of problems with modern relationships honestly come from a mixture of archaic beliefs and modern freedoms.
Or perhaps an expansion of them as well? I highly favor the idea of both genders being balanced in a relationship myself. I dislike the idea of constantly being dominant/in charge as a man, and I also dislike the idea of the women being constantly submissive/under my wing, quite frankly it bores the absolute shit out of me given the points mentioned earlier in there being no surprises or mystery. it gets old to constantly feel like a tyrant or a servant. I like the idea of a relationship that has a 50/50 split. I like the idea of being in control 50 percent of the time and the other 50 percent she can take the wheel and turn me into an obedient bitch if she wants to.
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