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Not raping anyone/not murdering anyone is called being a decent person, you're not special for not raping/murdering anyone and the fact that you think that its an argument is concerning. Rape/murder is pretty much condemned in any ethical system regardless and you don't have to be religious in order to be affected by your society's ethical system. Regarding your last sentence, israel isnt a theocracy which would be clear if you bothered to do a bit of research.

Sure, and the US isn't an oligarchy. Yes, and being a decent person has directly to do with ethics. How do you define what a "decent person" is without referring to ethics? Ethics do not in any way require religion to function. People write their religions to match their ethics.

Tell me, the Israeli-American, how Israel is a theocracy then. The war crimes thing, which ones are you referring about? The legal bombings of enemy targets in Gaza while warning civilians to get out of the way? You completely misread or misunderstood my posts. You keep saying ethics ethics but who defines those ethics? Religion has defined those ethics for the most part and as religions changed or became irrelevant, the societal idea of what is ethical has slowly changed. It's only recently that religion has stopped mattering and that's pretty much only in the West. As I wrote before, "The traditional sense of ethics in the West is based on Christian morals while the MENA follows Islamic morals and South East Asian ethics are Buddhist/Confucianist." You can't talk about ethics without religion being involved in the conversation. Just look at the Euthyphro Dilemma which asks "Is the pious (τὸ ὅσιον) loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?" It implies that if moral authority must come from the gods it doesn't have to be good, and if moral authority must be good it does not have to come from the gods" and which is still relevant today in discussions of ethics, even secular ethics because secular ethics must have a source.

By saying ethics have roots in religion you seem to be subtly implying religion is necessary for present day ethics. Is that what you mean? I can very easily ignore charity done by religious people, as that has no bearing on this discussion. Unless you're replying to someone claiming all religous people are unethical.

Muh fadora meme atheist Can we not do this anytime someone is remotely critical of religion, its so childish.

There is nothing wrong with criticizing religion. Supporting the eradication of religion, peacefully is a bit odd to me though; I would require a further explanation of what that would exactly entail to have a real concrete opinion of it. Either way, it is more or less beyond the realm of reality.

But even religion isn't about God or the afterlife per se, but instead it is ultimately about our actions (specifically in Earthly/observable existence) that are rewarded or punished for (specifically in Heaven/an existence beyond observable existence)

"eradicate" was definitely not the proper word to use there as it implies someone would be performing the eradication. Rather, I look forward to the day when people no longer believe the most fantastical things without an iota of evidence. Religion trains people to accept things without merit. It has to, because the fundamental claims of Abrahamic religions are entirely devoid of merit. I understand that religion takes many forms and monotheistic religions that warn of eternal suffering are only a small slice of the pie. Luckily, we don't need to try to distinguish between these for what I'm talking about. I'm describing a natural process -- that people will naturally become less willing to accept unsubstantiated claims -- that will come about as a result of improved education standards. This is an organic process that pays no mind to the exact distinctions of what is and is not religion.

arent you the person who uses religion to justify supporting israels ethnic cleansing of palestine tip your kippah harder