Convicted rapist given chance to meet resulting child
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lol are you really gonna get on a high horse about how saying that slurs are wrong to use is some kind of Great Helen Lovejoy affair? if you want to say slurs then go ahead but i'm going to treat and refer to you like the cunt you are for using them. don't like it? welcome to the social world, where you are judged and ostracized based on how you treat people. people in this thread expressed absolute dumbfoundery that, shock horror, something's considered a slur, and my hostile attitude toward some of the people present is based on their own hostile, asinine "waah what's the world come to, i can't call people slopes" attitude.
the cunt from this article is a right cunt. i don't need to insult where he might be from to call him an absolute monstrous bastard that doesn't deserve to see daylight again.
if you have to use racism to express your hatred for someone then you really don't deserve to be able to call other people cunts.
is from. Rape in Northern towns by Pakistanis is a genuine widespread issue. Avoiding the nationality is what caused this mess in the first place.
wait, am I dreaming or is this actually physically real. Why would you let a rapist meet a child that he raped before? shits crazy
This thread is a disaster. I feel kinda responsible for bringing up the slur business in the first place. Can we focus on the topic at hand, please?
I hear people who say Jap as shorthand for the cuisine, language or people. Sydney btw.
that's extremely unfortunate, but you must realise that even if the intent isn't to be racist, that it's still a racial slur with extremely negative connotations and a bad history. wider context of word usage and how it came about is important. ignorance doesn't mean you're not being racist, even if you yourself aren't a racist at your core.
although, now knowing this, still choosing to defend it, does sort of make you a racist.
I disagree. Racial slurs have different meanings in different countries, while Jap may be considered an incredibly offensive word in the US it doesn't carry the same conotations here, or at least not to the same extent.
it does to me, as well as a lot of others. we also have a japanese population here who would feel the same way. when the greater world recognises something as offensive, you can't just pretend you live in a vacuum.
and by saying 'at least not the same same extent' you're conceding that maybe it's still a little bit offensive, and even under that incorrect assumption, still using it... sort of makes you a bit racist dude. you could just stop using it, it's that easy. defending something that a large portion of the world recognizes as a racial slur is pretty weird. it's not like you're going to make it un-racist with your usage of it.
I don't say it though? Why do you think I do? I spent time growing up in the US and UK so I have a very different view of the words Paki and Jap than most Australians but I'm not going to chastise someone for saying them because it simply doesn't mean the same thing here. I wouldn't declare someone from the UK a racist for calling an indigenous person an aborigine.
Sorry, that was just my assumption from reading you defend it's usage.
And sure, but you can correct them. And if they ignore that and continue to use it, then they are a racist!
Surely, any non-racist would actually want to be alerted to fact they're using a racial slur, because they wouldn't actually want to offend anyone and they'd stop using it. That's the difference.
Surely you dont expect people that call themselves non-racists to google and search every word from every community to check if the qord theyre using is racist or not.
Jap is the first three letters, of, you guessed it Japanese. Japan.
Gook. Spic. Nigger. Slant. Boong. Arent short for anything. Theyre just offensive because they're developed as offensive.
I went to school on the Sunshine Coast and university in Brisbane. People referred to the food and their japanese friends that way.
I viewed this topic to see what crazy justification they came up with to come to this conclusuon and have got carried aqay by an argument that stemmed from a difference in culture.
No. The rapist shouldn't see or meet the kid because thats messed up.
How can this still be in contention to you when I posted the article? Even if it developed to just be a shortened version, it isn't used that way now. As Rusty says, 'gay' is sometimes used colloquially to mean something negative and 'paki' is the same way, although much worse, IMO.
I apologuse I didn't see the wiki.
Im just all heated up over the response to Azza. Ill be quiet now.
My issue isn't bringing up his ethnicity, because it is a cultural issue with people from Middle-Eastern cultures, I'm just saying you wouldn't call a rapist from Bangkok a "zipperhead", would you? Pakistani, not "paki".
I don't use it, but most of the time the people getting offended are those aren't who the word isn't directed towards.
nah i've known people call themselves pakis in uk as well
It's the same with the n-word in that people used the word on themselves in an ironic way that eventually became common parlance.
Hey, I tried to stop what I'd unwittingly started multiple times, but meh!
i like how that's what you picked up from all of this. the argument wasn't even that calling dickheads racial slurs is okay, which it isn't, but whether or not paki was a slur.
can we all agree that, "jap" and "paki" are very inconveniently racist
for some reason we arent allowed to SHORTEN certain words because enough people used those SHORTENED words offensively
like saying
"this guy is japanese"
has a different connotation than
"this guys a jap"
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