Artifact is released (Also Valve acknowledges Half-Life exists) - Sensationalist Headlines

Marketing hype is one hell of a drug it seems. How many times are people going to fall for shit that dissapoints them before they learn to never buy a game without accurate judgement? Rule of modern gaming is: never preorder and never get hyped for anything, judge all game releases with a stone cold poker face.

I think this is important to consider. We aren't necessarily the target audience for Artifact, but the people that are (them being TCG players) are already used to the treatment by the TCG business model and it's likely they're the ones that'll end up keeping this game alive just from all the money they're willing to give. Game companies are really lucky they're able to implement such an exploitative business model that has already been established many years ago players are already used to.

What else? They'd just continue with CS:GO and steam hardware related stuff. With or without dota/artifact they are going to make more games eventually. They made Dota and then released Artifact and you think that means they will only make these games? There is no feeling that one must support it. I'm mostly defending dota but Artifact getting this hate has been a thing since it was announced before there was information on how they'd monetize it. So I feel like a lot of the hate towards the game feels irrational purely because it's from Valve. Because they are interested in the game? No one should be subjected to your opinions. You're regarding your opinion as fact when you're entirely wrong. I think the game has bad monetization but the game itself looks kinda interesting though I would rather watch it on twitch or a tourney of it.

The continuity in which Valve no longer makes dota also takes place in a continuity where they were more authentic to their past to me. Obviously modern Valve would indeed be in danger of behaving like that however there is no way of definitively knowing what they would have done if they did not have the enormous responsibility of dota with them. No one is "subjected" to anyone's opinions in this thread, people are just posting them in order to express them. Posting this crap in an artifact thread or in a dota thread would be subjecting people to our opinions.

Definitely not with their other titles. Valve is ~360 people. A modern HL would probably need several 100 people. Valve would need to put several of their projects on hold to make a new HL and for sure they won't do that.

It the player base is anything like dota, you will hear stuff like "GG eziest game of my liffe" after an incredibly drawn out and difficult match.

Valve is like an alcoholic family member that you still have SOME fond memories of but has done nothing but disappoint you for years, but for some reason you can't let them go

And if the player base is anything like LoL, it's about 10 times worse than that.

Not as it stands right now. Maybe with OpenAI. I also doubt many people would line up for auto-filling, but yeah.

They probably would if they received some kind of a reward or fair advantage/incentive over it. Have some sort of a mechanic where an auto filling player from a disconnected one would give the team a slight but not ridiculous boost and give them a chance at defending themselves if they are on the losing part of the team. It could also be something as simple as temporary cosmetics or comedic relief.

You have a behaviour score (so toxic people get matched with toxic people) and you also have a report system, where verbal abuse is one of the options. You don't need to specify that you don't want to play with toxic people - if you aren't yourself, you won't get matched with them (very often at least).

If Artifacts payment features worked like mtg arena, I think people would be happier.

Except the game is out, there is now plenty of info on exactly how the game works and it's pretty terrible. How many people would support Artifact or would defend this game's questionable things if it was developed by another company that wasn't Valve?

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/200318/bdecd96b-0496-4654-9c28-5d75f97c22ae/image.png I dont know if this has been already mentioned but apparently you cant refund the game when you open the starter pack If any other game did this or messed with the refund policy in general Valve would probably just kick them out of the store page but I guess its fine when its the platform holders doing it the comments on reviews are defending this by saying the cards are cheap and its to prevent refund abuse but come on, that still doesnt solve the problem and there's a better way to deal with refund abusers than to outright stop everyone from getting refunds

Reminds me of an apparently existent iphone app that asks the user to hold their finger for a scan and then rapidly pops up a pay authorization requiring it which tricks them into spending money.

Can those starter packs be sold on the steam market? If they can't that fucked up.

TF2 was in its infancy, Steam wasn't as big, there were no Dota and CSGO and Valve wasn't into hardware and API stuff. Also that period was a couple of weeks iirc. For HL it would be years.

More games are being developed, but knowing Valve there's a very high chance they'll all be quietly cancelled. I suspect that the only reason Artifact was ever finished is because they had a guy who has already demonstrated that he can see the development of a TCG to the end.

https://i.imgur.com/mAEjzq1.png This is what is written in Steam Refunds: Refunds on In-game Purchases Steam will offer refund for in-game purchases within any Valve-developed games within forty-eight hours of purchase, so long as the in-game item has not been consumed, modified or transferred. Third-party developers will have the option to enable refunds for in-game items on these terms. Steam will tell you at the time of purchase if the game developer has opted to offer refunds on the in-game item you are buying. Otherwise, in-game purchases in non-Valve games are not refundable through Steam. It is written there very clearly. I read from steam forums that it is still possible to submit a ticket for refund even after accepting it, just not the automatic one. Although I do not see why they should block the player from accessing the free draft mode, or the featured preconstructed (it is not written). Yes but the cards go for... um, 4 cents each? It is the 10 free packs (lootboxes) that have potential worth.

You can access the Call to Arms gamemode without claiming the starter pack. This was in the 11/21 beta update: > You can now play bot matches and Call to Arms without claiming your starting package. This lets you try more of the game before you reach the point-of-no-return on refunds.

People saying the game isnt expensive as other digital card games, arent considering that the cards have the same cost worldwide, which makes the game very expensive on some countries.

If the starter pack is something the player bought by themselves then not having refunds is understandable, but this sounds like youre giving up refunds to play the rest of the game to me At least theres the option to get a refund manually and you can try bot matches and stuff so it's not completely bad but still

See, this is the problem I have with people who are mad at Valve for making a card game. Artifact is greedy, no doubt, but I find absolutely no validity in criticizing Valve for making a type of game they don't usually make, no matter if it's something niche like TCGs; I think it's good for companies to branch out and experiment with things out of their comfort zone. I'd love a new half-life but I'd also love to see Valve's take on a realistic car game, or a city builder, or a Subnautica-esque survival game.

Yes but if their experiments are bad you don't just go "oh wow good job at least you did something!" Judge a product on its merits.

You fool! You can't bring Wickedplayer back here! I AM BECOMING UNCONTROLLABLY OFFENDED RIGHT NOW!

Ok then, Cheez but its Valve News Network (Tyler the mcfoot-fetish guy) retweet me to him which still info about player count.

Wat

No literally I did. https://twitter.com/wickedplayer494/status/1067899527032651776 And look on retweet to see him retweeting this and where got me to retweet him in different version of wp494 twitter tweet.

No I mean what is up with "(Tyler the mcfoot-fetish guy)" just wat

Its just bad joke that I was attempting at.